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Moe. I'm glad you're here. Gary Gullman has been a stand-up comedian for 30 years.

He's one of only a few comics to appear on every major late-night talk show.

He's released several albums and has made several stand-up specials.

He is much beloved in the comedy world.

I first met Gary Gullman when I interviewed him in the fall of 2017 in a hotel in Manhattan.

Gary had been dealing with major depressive disorder since he was a kid, and it had gotten very bad.

Gary had been getting inpatient care, and then in his 40s,

he had moved back in with his mom in Peabody, Massachusetts, because he couldn't take care of

himself. When we spoke back then, this was for a different show I was hosting at the time,

Gary was actually doing better than he had been, but he still wasn't good.

This is Gary Gullman from that episode of the hilarious world of depression.

I often feel like a failure, you know, that I didn't reach my potential.

Had I been, you know, I always say had I felt good, I would have been unstoppable.

When I feel good, I'm unstoppable. I've just been plagued so many times and been held back by this illness, and it's been, you know, just the

bane of my existence for so long and so consistently that I've had to work around it and it's cost me time and so much energy

and I just feel like um you know as as far as I can tell I work harder than most uh less hard

than than some I'm pretty diligent about writing and and listening to my sets and everything like that, but I

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