Hello and welcome to Happy Place, the podcast where I, Fern cotton, sit down for a cup of tea

with some wonderful, inspiring people and see how they keep it all together.

We are back for another run of shows to take you all the way to Christmas.

We'll be there to cheer you up as the nights get cold and dark.

And what better way to put the spring back into your step than time in the company of Mr Gary Barlow?

I've never really been in my life ever a very athletic person.

But the day all sort of started to turn and tip the scales was when I went for a run.

I got those lovely, in-dorfins. They come into my head and I can't feel them.

I haven't thought like this for years.

And it was like this is it, the switch is, the switch is flipping.

He was so open and honest with me, even down to how nervous he was to open up about it all.

It's Gary Barlow as you've never heard him before.

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