Welcome back everyone to the Epic Gardening Podcast, Kevin this

beer to here. We have Jordan from Mind and Soil. They provide a bunch of

natural and organic gardening products and their mission is really awesome to

help a million people connect with the mental health benefits of gardening. I

have really been working on this like you have heard on yesterday's show and I

probably talked about it in the past as well. So Jordan you've got sort of a I

guess a checklist so to speak of ways that you can proactively be mindful in

the garden instead of sort of letting it become another place that you get

distracted. Yeah absolutely and I think at the you know very beginning of this

is just thinking of the garden as like your sanctuary and your safe haven and

your space away from all the you know distractions or madness or just

challenges that you might find yourself in throughout life and so I've got kind

of three things that I would recommend to individuals and the first one is just

like giving yourself permission to have however much time it's going to be

whether it's 10 minutes 30 minutes an hour to not really need to get to

anything else. You don't need to be checking your phone you don't need to be

solving a problem. This is your opportunity to be in your sanctuary and

recharging your batteries and and just by doing that first piece it starts to

feel like a little bit of a vacation again you're stepping away and you're

moving into that attention restoration side of things.

Yep yeah totally agree there's a thing that I would find hard to do and that

would be to disregard technology and just just go outside and enjoy the garden

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