Hello, welcome to How to win 2024. We are taping this. It's Wednesday, July 3rd.

I'm Jennifer Paul Mary and I'm here with my co-host Claire McCaskill.

Oh my God, Claire.

Yeah, what a week.

Listen, I want to remind everybody what the name of this podcast is.

It's called How to Win 2024.

And you know, if you're coming here to listen to people just talk about how important it is for

Joe Biden to remain the candidate and win. You need to think for a minute because what we've got to talk

about is how important it is for Donald Trump to lose. And we've got to be honest

about where we are because we're not the Republican Party.

Yeah, we don't follow, we don't, we're not lemmings.

And by the way, I'll just say to all you people out there that go online and say horribly mean

things to people who disagree with you, Don't think it doesn't hurt.

It hurts a little.

I mean, when I read people saying I'm a Judas and

how dare I and they'll never listen to me again.

It's no fun.

I mean, obviously I was a politician forever and that's because I wanted people to like me so you know

It's it's it's it's it's old goal Claire but you know what I mean if you got kind of personality and put yourself out there for public acceptance or rejection part of that is a desire to be liked

But I think it's really important to realize that I love this man. Yeah, he's my friend. I served with him. He was really good to me and I

care about him. But I care about my country slightly more and the threat we face is so real and so prevalent.

I think it's really important we're honest about where we are and what might happen.

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