Hello, welcome in How to Win 2024. We're taping this episode on Wednesday, July 10th.

I'm Jennifer Palmeri and my usual partner in crime, Claire McCaskill is away this week, so I'm here with a very special co-host,

Mark McKinnon, yay! also known as M-Cat. Hello Cat.

Hello, Jay-Pah.

Friends of Showtime's circus might remember that Mark and I were co-host in a previous life.

The show was Mark's idea.

I was a co-excitive producer, co-host for all eight seasons, and veteran campaign pro.

I mean, you've had the most interesting life of any friend I have honestly starting with a music career in Nashville for real people I'm not making that up and then a campaign consultant for Democrats then moved to be a campaign consultant for George W Bush's governor,

helped get him elected president twice,

and then the presidential campaign of John McCain,

and all along pushing this idea of we should have a very cool show that shows you what's really

going on in politics. Thank you, Kat. Well thank you, you you made the circus

great, Jen. Yeah, that was fun. It was a ton of fun. It really was. So this week Mark and I are going to talk

Biden strategy, Trump's feeb stakes, and will also preview the Republican

invention set to kick off this Monday with NBC's own Von Hilliard. But first continuing

fallout for Biden so this is where we're like okay if we were in the room and the

Biden campaign what would we be doing?

This is Wednesday morning.

Let me tell you like my assessment and see where you are at.

So I felt like Sunday, the Biden campaign

should return to a corner, good appearance of the black church's president had.

Some members of Congress started coming out against him. They were all white members of Congress.

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