Welcome to the podcast that interviews active and retired police officers but the most intense bizarre and sometimes humorous moments on the job.

I'm Steve Gould old ginger face coming at you. Thank you for uh thank you for checking out the show. Thank you for all the binge listening that's going on that's awesome.

Thank you for finding the show. This is your first time listening. This is the place where police officers speak freely. Totally uninhibited about the experiences they have on the job with the with the goal that you gain a better appreciation for what these men and women actually do.

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27 years as a Michigan conservation officer eight years as a certified police officer received rewards including awards awards including officer the year and other accommodations is written to award winning books which we'll talk about in currently travels a country doing seminars about the police in game warden professions without further to let me bring on the great John Borkovich John thank you for coming on man.

I stayed through I'm I you doing man it's good to see you brother and you know just so the people know poor John we had technical difficulties the first time we had we tried to do this so this is a second go around and everything seems like it's running smoothly.

Good excellent John one interesting fact about you is you have been very interesting friend you made by through being in law enforcement.

Can you tell us about him.

Which one you.

I think there's a famous rock star that your friends with.

Oh that one yeah um our friend Ted new Jim last time to me and we have a lot in common love for the country and.

Love at the outdoors and love for hunting but he he kind of found me Steve because of my my attitude more or less my bedside manner how I do with the public.

I do podcasts with Ted I go to his house I spend a lot of time with him.

I was with him two weeks ago up in Lexington Michigan for a couple days but bottom line is when I say like my attitude toward the public.

I speak.

To the NRAs and your convention I speak the clubs and groups in several states I have this quote friend Ted Nugent who appreciates me.

This podcast are so so appreciating of what I do so.

I think all that revolves around how I do my job.

Yeah every one of every one of us.

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