Hello and welcome to the Story Grid podcast. This is a show dedicated to helping you become a better

writer. I'm your host Tim Graal and I am a struggling writer trying to figure out how to tell a

story that works. Joining me shortly is Sean Coyne. He is the creator of Story Grid, the author of

the book Story Grid and an editor with over 25 years experience.

In this episode, I had written a couple scenes that were objectively pretty bad.

And then I got some inspiration and was able to actually get a scene written that I was happy with.

And it kicked off a great conversation with Sean about a new way of looking at story or another

way of looking at story that we haven't really tackled on this podcast before. And so I think

it's going to be helpful for you. It was helpful for me to start thinking about it from this perspective.

So let's jump in and get started. So Sean, I watched the new Mission Impossible movie this weekend, the fallout,

because it just came out. And Candace and I like those movies, so we always go watch them

when they come out. And then it got me to go back and watch the last one, which was Rogue Nation.

It was funny, I know I've seen it. Candace

swears we saw it together. I have like no memory of that movie. So I was like, because she kept

trying to tell me about it. And I'm like, what are you talking about? She's like, the part and the

water. And I'm like, I have no idea what you're talking about. So we went back and watched

that one and it kind of inspired me a little bit because really what I am is I'm terrified

of writing this book. And I feel like the podcast is kind of making me write it, which is good

for me. But at the same time, like, I'm doing it,

well, I'm resisting it, you know. I'm kind of trying to slow it down. And I keep feeling like

I'm writing this not very good stuff because I don't really know what to do with myself.

So I had written two scenes and they just weren't very good because they're just slow and

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