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We asked people to bring in three words of meaning and significance to their lives.

We used that as a springboard for conversation.

And then at the end of the show, we asked them for a word that they'd be happy never to hear again.

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I mean, Phil is his own man. He's often said things to create a reaction, to create momentum on social media.

But this could be one step too far because he is doubling in some really, really murky waters at the moment.

One year ago, Phil Michelson was riding the highest of highs, winning the PGA Championship and becoming the oldest major champion in golf history.

But now, after making some very controversial comments about Saudi Arabia and a Saudi-backed golf league back in February,

Lefty has found himself in hot water and a self-imposed exile from the PGA.

Phil Michelson, the defending PGA championship winner, pooling out of next week's event at Southern Hills in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

Today, Michelson biographer Alan Shipnuck, who published the comments that landed Michelson in hot water,

joins us to discuss the golf superstars to mulch was here, new revelations about his gambling losses,

and what a path to redemption would look like.

If he goes all in with the Saudis and really makes himself a pariah, it's going to be a complex legacy.

There is a road back for Phil, but it does not run through the kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

From Wondry, I'm Tiffany Oshinsky. It's Wednesday, May 18th, and this is The Lead.

Alan Shipnuck, welcome to The Lead.

Happy to be here. Thanks for having me.

So, Alan, I think it's fair to say that you have a rather unique relationship with Phil Nicholson.

So how long have you known him and how would you describe your relationship with him?

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