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The Psychology Podcast

Gabor Maté || The Myth of Normal

The Psychology Podcast

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Science, Social Sciences

4.42K Ratings

🗓️ 22 September 2022

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

Today we welcome Dr. Gabor Maté. A physician, renowned speaker, and bestselling author, Gabor is highly sought after for his expertise on addiction, stress, and childhood development. For his groundbreaking medical work and writing, he has been awarded the Order of Canada, his country’s highest civilian distinction. He is also a co-developer of Compassionate Inquiry, a therapeutic approach for deep healing and transformation. His newest book is called The Myth of Normal: Trauma, Illness & Healing in a Toxic Culture.

In this episode, I talk to Gabor Maté about The Myth of Normal. Healthcare in Western societies tend to focus on physical health, without accounting for an individual’s lived experience. The tension between authenticity and attachment and the pressures of a capitalist culture puts undue stress on our minds and bodies. Dr. Maté invites us to rethink trauma and disease, by emphasizing holistic well-being and the role of agency. We also touch on the topics of early childhood, epigenetics, and self-improvement. 

Website: drgabormate.com

Twitter: @drgabormate

 

Topics

02:36 The Myth of Normal

06:14 Maslow’s Metagrumbles

10:25 From individual to global well-being

13:25 Authenticity vs attachment

20:48 No separation of psyche and soma

28:05 Trauma is what happens inside you

33:34 Dr. Gabor Maté’s early childhood 

37:20 Trauma denial and victimhood mentality

41:05 Disease is a long term process

45:21 Epigenetics and the role of environment

50:24 Screening for special and gifted education

52:45 Pathways to wholeness

58:01 The four A’s of healing 

1:06:44 Compassionate Inquiry

1:10:16 Authentic satisfaction

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0:00.0

Now the good thing is, if the trauma was what happened to me that I'll never be the person

0:04.9

that wasn't, quote, abandoned by my mother all those years ago. But if the trauma is the wound

0:11.2

that I sustained which is that I'm not lovable, that I can overcome at any moment.

0:22.1

Hello and welcome to the Psychology Podcast. Today we welcome Dr. Gabor Matay to the show.

0:28.0

Dr. Matay is a physician-renowned speaker and best-selling author who is highly

0:32.6

solid after for his expertise on addiction, stress, and childhood development. For his groundbreaking

0:38.0

medical work and writing, he has been awarded the Order of Canada, his country's highest civilian

0:42.5

distinction. He's also a co-developer of Compassionate Inquiry, a therapeutic approach for deep healing

0:48.4

and transformation. His new book is called The Myth of Normal, Trauma, Illness, and Healing in a

0:53.7

Toxic Culture. In this episode I talked to Dr. Matay about The Myth of Normal. Healthcare in

0:59.6

Western societies tend to focus on physical health without accounting for an individual's lived

1:04.5

experience. The tension between authenticity and attachment and the pressures of a capitalist

1:09.1

culture puts undue stress on our minds and bodies. Dr. Matay invites us to rethink trauma and disease

1:15.5

by emphasizing holistic well-being and the role of agency. We also touch on the topics of early

1:20.8

childhood, epigenetics, and self-improvement. This was a really meaningful chat for me,

1:26.0

with someone who I admire greatly. I really like the way he thinks about trauma and the way he

1:30.4

humanizes trauma. It's very much in line with my own humanistic perspective on healing and

1:36.0

importance of becoming whole. So that further ado, I bring you Dr. Gabor Matay. Dr. Gabor Matay,

1:43.0

wow, so great to have you on the psychology podcast. I wanted to talk to you for quite some time.

1:49.0

I really loved your latest book, and I was so excited to see a lot of areas of common interest,

1:53.7

including our admiration for Eric Fromp. There's a name you don't hear that much these days.

1:59.7

No, and I have to say that this book of mine, The Myth of Normal, is almost like a tribute to Fromp.

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