Hello everyone and welcome to Talk Nurdy. Today is Monday, September 27th, 2021.

Wow, and I'm the host of the show, Kara Santa Maria, and we have a great one for you this week.

I'm so excited.

But before we dive in, I do want to thank those of you who continue to make Talk Nurdie possible week after week.

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This week's top patrons at the very tippy, tipy top is Rob Shrek, along with

Daniel Lang and Mary Niva. I also want to thank Brian Holden, Christopher Pitts, David

J. E. Smith, Dood's Infinitas, June Sopara, U Rika Hagman, and Robert

Christ for their support of the show, among many, many others.

Right now, 212 of you. Thank you all so much from the bottom of my heart.

Okay, let's get into it. This week I have the distinct honor of having my favorite living science writer on the show.

If you don't know her, you absolutely should.

Her name is Mary Roach, and she is the author of,

let's see if I can do this,

stiff, spook, Grunt, Gulp, Packing for Mars, Bonk, and her newest

Fuzz when nature breaks the law.

We're going to talk about all things,

writing, all things, human animal conflict,

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