Welcome to Further In, a podcast where Pastor Ben and members of our team take a deeper look at the scripture we studied this week at Passion City Church, D.C., and consider how to apply the truths of God's word to our lives.

My daughter asks for that story, like, on a weekly basis. It's one of her face? Zikaas. Yeah. Yeah, she's like, can we do Zikias? What's she like about it? Honestly, I don't know. I don't know. Is it because she gets a song? It's a little man in a tree. That's a fascinating thing. I do think it's probably the fact that there's like lore.

She has a song attached to it.

Man, you add a song to anything.

I'm not saying this isn't a fascinating story.

I just feel like the Bible can really throw some much more fascinating settings and context than a man in a tree.

How short was he?

How big a boy are you?

I don't know.

I have no idea. Because like when he's portrayed in the

kids' Bible, he's pretty short, you know. You bring a step ladder to that single board tree.

They literally, the Jesus storybook Bible, uh, Jesus is like giving him a hug or something and he's

standing on a table, like in his house. They put him on like a stool or something and he's standing on a table like out in his in his house they put him on like a stool or

something.

Sally hit him with a short short.

That's tough.

Well, I'm glad we did it.

I liked talking about his story, you know.

Yeah.

There's a, I taught this, I taught Zekees's life one

other time, uh, that I recall, and really emphasized that the, um, you know, there's a couple

different points of emphasis when you're preaching on it. One is that, um, and you see this, we saw it last week, too. There's

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