Welcome to Further In, a podcast where Pastor Ben and members of our team take a deeper look at the scripture we studied this week at Passion City Church, D.C., and consider how to apply the truths of God's Word to our lives.

Well, great sermon yesterday, Pastor Ben. I had fun listening to you read the text on the front end.

Oh, yeah.

And being like, here we go.

Like, I'm excited to see what this means.

But yeah, a lot of, a lot of.

And also, we got to get way more like practical and in the weeds, obviously specifically around wisdom in the workplace.

But it was fun to kind of have one of those.

We don't always spend a whole message of just like, let's get pretty practical on

like how to operate in this chaotic world with some wisdom that will probably help you

and sometimes won't because that's life.

But, you know.

Yeah, it's interesting.

You know, I just spoke at an event for a pastor's training organization.

And I told the story of a really profound moment for me.

Showing up at church in college as a freshman really struggling with faith as a whole.

And hearing the pastor read the text beforehand and me going, I don't know what that means. And then him explaining it and that experience of me

moving in a 30, 40 minute window from like, I do not understand that to, wow, I really

understand that. It was so intensely meaningful and powerful for me, that actually has become the genesis

of why I always want to kind of read a passage beforehand, just so you can kind of assess it

and go, here's the amount of knowledge I have about it, and then help people move further

into understanding about it.

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