Fundie Mental Gymnastics: Drinking and Alcohol
Leaving Eden Podcast
Leaving Eden LLC
4.5 • 744 Ratings
🗓️ 12 May 2026
⏱️ 46 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss the mental gymnastics Fundies perform to say that drinking alcohol is a sin, even though Jesus turned water into wine. We go into the history of where the fundie taboo around drinking came from, how a social taboo became integrated into a religious doctrine, and why this makes zero sense.
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00:00 - INTRO:
04:26 - Josh Duggar Emails
05:48 - SEND YOUR PRIDE STORIES TO US!
06:54 - Jesus' miracles
07:50 - Anti-Alcohol sentiment in Christianity
18:27 - Why did or didn't people drink alcohol in biblical times?
26:20 - Prohibition and the Scopes Monkey Trial
32:27 - Why are fundies stuck in the 1920s?
37:08 - Jesus turned water into... Grape Juice?
38:35 - He turned the water into Lean
39:35 - How the fundies convince themselves that Alcohol is bad
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| 0:00.0 | No rolling river of time. |
| 0:08.5 | You've healed me in too many days. |
| 0:15.4 | No regrets, no confusion. |
| 0:19.4 | There'll be no pollution. I'm so thankful i've decided to change my ways |
| 0:29.1 | sadie yes what was jesus's first miracle when he turned the water into welch's grape juice |
| 0:34.9 | i thought that jesus turned the water into wine you would be wrong yeah am thought that Jesus turned the water into wine. You would be wrong. |
| 0:38.3 | Yeah. |
| 0:38.8 | Am I wrong? |
| 0:39.5 | You are very wrong and not only are you wrong, you are setting me up again for that |
| 0:45.0 | thing that happens on Instagram. |
| 0:46.7 | Yeah. |
| 0:47.9 | So, um... |
| 0:48.1 | Just rude. |
| 0:50.1 | A couple of months ago, we did an episode where we talked about Fundy's trying to avoid the appearance of things. |
| 0:57.6 | Like, why is it a sin to walk down the beer aisle in the grocery store? |
| 1:01.0 | When I posted that episode, we got a lot of comments on it from people saying things like, |
| 1:06.8 | Jesus turned the water into wine. |
| 1:09.1 | Why would the Fundies think alcohol is bad that you shouldn't drink it? |
| 1:13.4 | So, yeah, and the answer to that is that they do not believe that Jesus turned the water into |
| 1:18.5 | alcoholic wine. |
| 1:19.8 | They believe that Jesus turned the water into literal grape juice, and it's kind of a, I mean, |
| 1:24.0 | I don't know, they spent a lot of time retconning and reinterpreting the Old Testament to make it match with the New Testament. |
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