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Question for you, Abby. You're on a dating app.

And a dude confesses to you that he's 30 years old and has never been kissed.

I think you just answered.

I was going to ask you if that is a red flag.

How do you look at that? If he's 30 years old, never kissed somebody.

It's not a red flag as much as it is a turnoff. But I want to be

empathetic here. And I would, I would want to know why. You know, were you going to cult for 29

years? You've just now broken out. Were you, were you, did you have a lot of religious trauma

growing up? Are you just kind of a wussy? Like, you just didn't have any like balls to approach a woman. Like there's a lot of follow-up questions. Zero opportunity. Zero. There was probably plenty of opportunity. So really the turnoff is just kind of like, I don't know, I love a guy with a big personality who's very outgoing. So for me, you're just telling me that you're not my type in that moment. Because if you're 30 and you haven't kissed anybody, then you're probably not the kind of personality type that I'm attracted to. Yeah, because it means that screams no initiative to me. Yes. Or like you're just, you more. Yes. It seems to me like you're more of a person that stands back rather than goes after what you want. Okay, so let's bring it down a little bit. How about 28? 28. 28 never kissed. Same thing? Yeah. The age doesn't matter to me. If you're above the age of, I'm going to give it 21. If you are out of the college age range and you haven't kissed somebody, that to me is kind of like, what were you doing for all those years? Yeah, I'm the same with Abby. I just, I feel like, and it's not, this isn't a shame or this isn't to show lack of empathy. I probably know it sounds like that. But it makes you look like a dog looking at a whistle. Like Like how? How is that possible? Yeah, how is that

possible? Like, you definitely have to get to the why of it. But that would be, it would be something

that I wouldn't want to know and that you, I don't feel like you should disclose. Okay. Well, Harper here is

24. She's not 28. She's not 30. But Okay. Well, Harper here is 24.

She's not 28.

She's not 30.

But she is 24. According to you, Abby, we're in the zone here where it's going to be uncomfortable if she tells somebody this. Just a little bit. Just a little bit. Harper is on the voice disguiser. Hey, Harper. Okay, so you're 24 years old. you have never been kissed, but you think it might be happening this weekend.

Yeah, so, um, So you're 24 years old. You have never been kissed, but you think it might be happening this weekend.

Yeah.

So I just don't have much of a dating history, like all through high school, college, even now in grad school.

I've just been really focused on school, right?

So I haven't really had time for for like, friendships and certainly not dating. Um, so like, I don't know. I mean, I've gone on like two dates ever up until now.

Um, but I, you know, I struggle with anxiety. I just haven't really like put myself out there to

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