Full Ride Fine Print (Ep. 528)
Thinking LSAT
Nathan Fox and Ben Olson
4.6 • 886 Ratings
🗓️ 13 October 2025
⏱️ 103 minutes
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Summary
Ben and Nathan weigh in on New England Law’s conditional, full-tuition scholarships. They criticize conditional scholarships that can leave a majority of students paying full price. At most law schools, only top students (typically those already with scholarships) will secure six-figure jobs. The majority of the class foot the bill, taking out exorbitant loans while earning significantly less after graduation. Ben and Nathan encourage applicants to apply broadly and attend the right school at the right price.
Later in the show, they:
Break down UC Law San Francisco’s new $100 million campaign
Reassure a student who fears they’re progressing too slowly
React to WashU personally contacting applicants’ recommenders
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Check out all of our “What’s the Deal With” Segments.
Get caught up with our Word of the Week library.
0:32 - UC Law San Francisco $100 Million “Into the Future” Campaign
6:00 - Trusting the Process
13:48 - WashU Reaching out to Recommenders
29:30 - Policies on AI
39:15 - Caught Between Admissions Cycles
45:20 - Pearls vs. Turds
57:24 - What’s the Deal with New England Law?
1:13:05 - Personal Statement Gong Show
1:35:30 - Word of the Week
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | And it's like, oh, so all the people that wash out in law school, that's fine. |
| 0:03.0 | We didn't want them anyway. |
| 0:03.9 | We only want the people who rise to the very pinnacle of schools like this so that then we can put them into another fight club pyramid scheme that is our law firm. |
| 0:25.3 | Hello and welcome to episode 528 of the Thinking LSAT podcast. |
| 0:26.2 | I'm Nathan Fox. |
| 0:27.2 | With me is Ben Olson. |
| 0:31.6 | We are the co-founders of LSATDemon.com and the LSAT Demon Daily podcast. |
| 0:39.9 | We're going to kick it off today with an email that I received from my alma mater, UC Hastings, now UC Law, SF. |
| 0:44.8 | Just real quick, Ben, what are your thoughts about this? |
| 0:47.6 | You know, maybe you could just read the email that I received. |
| 0:48.8 | Yeah, I will read it. |
| 0:57.8 | I mean, the first thing I see is your former was he, he wasn't your dean, right? No, I had one one class with him he was a professor and a rising you know politician within the university when i was there okay so it has a picture of him |
| 1:04.5 | standing in front of some audience and the slide behind him says a law school reaching higher, which is just an odd week statement. |
| 1:14.5 | But the email itself says on Saturday, September 27th, 2025, UCLaw SF launched its first ever |
| 1:25.1 | comprehensive fundraising campaign with a goal of raising $100 million |
| 1:32.1 | to support the college's students and college's Trump case for some reason, faculty and programs |
| 1:40.0 | that strengthen education and the legal profession. The campaign titled Into the Future, |
| 1:46.4 | the Campaign for UC Law San Francisco, |
| 1:49.6 | will ensure that the oldest law school west of the Rockies |
| 1:53.3 | remains a leader in preparing students, |
| 1:56.0 | producing influential research and advancing nothing else but justice. |
| 2:01.9 | It's just hilarious as a graduate, you know, I'm a, I'm a 2011 grad of Hastings, |
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