Welcome back to the podcast. I'm Alexandra Rogi, and today I'm speaking with one of the luminaries of the anti-bribery world.

As Peru's ad hoc state attorney, he was instrumental in the corruption case against Peruvian president, Alberto Fujimimori and Vladimir Montesinos, the former

head of Peru's intelligence service. He eventually opened more than 200 cases against

1,500 Fujimori-era government officials and other associates of the president. Under his mandate,

he froze substantial stolen assets overseas and ultimately recovered a significant portion of those for the people of Peru.

In 2015, he wrote a book about his work, Kaiga Kien Kaiga.

Since 2002, he has also played a role in Transparency International, culminating in his election as chair of T.I.'s board of directors in 2014, where he still serves today.

Jose Ugas.

Thank you for joining me.

Good morning, Alexander.

How are you?

I am well.

Thank you, Jose.

And I should have added that in private practice at your Lima-based law firm, you've served as Trace's Peruvian partner firm and been incredibly generous with your time

and expertise, so we thank you for that too. Why don't we start with your work as the ad hoc state

attorney in Peru? Can you describe that role to us? I think it's one a lot of lawyers and compliance

professionals won't be familiar with. Yeah, sure. I'm a criminal defense attorney working on the private practice, as you just mentioned.

And in 2000, when a video appeared with Vladimir Montesinos, who was the personal advisor of President

Fujimori and also the guy in charge of the intelligence

service appeared bribing a new elected congressman in order to literally buy by his vote,

to vote with a majority.

Then it was a little bit too much.

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