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Lurie Breaks It Down

Fugitive Slave Laws: Project 2025 Edition

Lurie Breaks It Down

Women's Empowerment Network

Politics, Society & Culture, News, Culture, History

5.0619 Ratings

🗓️ 30 April 2025

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Lurie breaks down the Supreme Court hearing: Martin v. United States, Trump's executive order on policing, & unidentified agents who raided the home of a family in Oklahoma in search of someone else in Oklahoma. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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0:00.0

Welcome to another episode of Lurie Breaks It Down, a podcast where we dig deeply to connect the dots on the issues that shape our world.

0:20.1

I am Lurie Daniel Fabavors. I am an author,

0:22.7

activist, attorney, and host of the Lurie Daniel Favors show on Sirius XM's Urban View, Channel 126.

0:29.1

Now, in the previous episode, I laid the foundation for what life was like under a set of laws

0:35.2

called the fugitive slave laws. And we explored what that looked like both for enslaved African people,

0:41.1

free African people, and a third group, formerly enslaved African people,

0:45.4

who freed themselves by running away.

0:48.1

And today I want to pick up on that conversation a bit

0:50.8

because we're going to explore what it looks like

0:52.9

when you're living under a fugitive slave era style of policing in both 2025 and in 2017. But first, I want you to take a

1:02.9

listen to this clip from Rachel Maddow, where she describes the current realities that we are

1:07.4

facing as it pertains to our criminal legal system today right Right now. Let's hear what she had to say.

1:13.0

This month, President Trump signed what he called a national security presidential memorandum,

1:20.2

which declared that extended swaths of three contiguous states are all now technically a military base. It's 170 miles long, a long

1:30.2

strip of federal land along the southern borders of California, Arizona, and New Mexico. And in this

1:34.8

memo, Trump ordered the Pentagon, the Defense Department, to start taking control of this land.

1:41.2

So now the U.S. military has taken control of 170 miles of land, starting in New Mexico,

1:48.1

along New Mexico's southern border, and they've declared that that land is now part of Fort Wachuka,

1:53.7

which is a U.S. Army base that's not even in New Mexico. It's in Arizona. Well, the reason

1:59.1

Trump is doing that is because he wants active duty U.S. military service members to start arresting people on New Mexico. It's in Arizona. Well, the reason Trump is doing that is because he wants active duty U.S.

2:01.8

military service members to start arresting people on U.S. soil. Last week, the military announced

2:07.5

that U.S. soldiers are now authorized to arrest anyone who steps foot on that 170-mile-long

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