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Today's episode from The Silo is a foreign office from May of last year, where Michael Weiss speaks with

Jennifer Kafforella on the then impending Ukrainian counter-offensive. We hope you enjoy. Hi and welcome back to Foreign Office I'm Michael Weiss

director of Special Investigations at the Free Russia Foundation and senior editor

at Yahoo News. This week we are joined by Jenny Cafforella. I have known her for a decade, I think, and weirdly, strangely, to my everlasting

discredit, have not had her on the show yet, but she's a brilliant analyst at the Institute for the

study of war and National Security Fellow I think is the official title and if you don't

follow her and her team's work they do daily assessments of the war in Ukraine and obviously this is the reason

I'm bringing Jenny on Jenny it's great to have you at long last.

Thanks very much for having me it's a pleasure.

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