Hi and welcome to the working songwriter. The Show where today's best songwriters come to talk shop. I'm your host, Joe Pug.

Each episode here, we host a distinguished guest, and we ask them to go deep on their

inspiration, on their process, on the general ups and downs of making a life in music.

So, whether you're a grizzled veteran selling T-shirts on Etsy from a tour that you did in 1998 that you just found in a storage space or else a scrappy upstart selling thumb drives of your catalog albums because somehow that is retro now this is your show because ultimately it is what every writer seeks most an ironclad excuse to put off

actually writing.

Hey everybody, it is the final Friday of February 2025, and I thank you for joining us.

This week's show is brought to you by Banzugal.

Built by musicians and for musicians, Banzugal is an all-in-one platform to build a beautiful website for your music.

I'm old enough to remember when you had to pay somebody called a web developer to get a

website made. It would always be some guy named Dimitri who drove an FJ Cruiser with a raised

intake snorkel and who was always trying to sell you vintage quailudes that he kept in a Charlotte

Hornets fanny pack. An old Dimitri would charge you about a thousand bucks for a website

that would be obsolete in six months.

But it's the future now.

You guys, that's not how it works anymore.

We're allowed to have nice things now.

One of those nice things is Banzugal.

For over 20 years, Banzugal has made it easy to build a stunning website

and online store for your music.

Now they've added a brand new EPK plan so that musicians can create a professional single-page

electronic press kit in minutes. All the features you need are already built in. Music players,

images, text bio, video embeds, a gig calendar, press quotes, and access to

...