You're going to Hello and welcome to the working songwriter the show where today's best songwriters come to talk shop. I'm your host Joe Pug. Each episode here we host a distinguished guest and we ask

them to go deep on their inspiration, on their process, on the general ups and

downs of making a life in music. So whether you're a

grizzled veteran wondering how to upload your new album to Deezer or else

a scrappy upstart thinking very hard if you know a

single living human being who actually listens to their music on Deezer. This is your show because ultimately it is what every writer seeks

most in ironclad excuse to put off actually writing.

Hey you guys, it's the last Friday of January 2020, new year, new me, new you, New All of Us, New Podcast. Thanks for being here.

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