With Theresa May, it's the tension.

It's the kind of, you know, I want to smile, but the rest of my face won't let me.

And with Liz Truss, you know, when Liz Truss first appeared, talking about pork markets.

It was like a little girl whose daddy had always told her she was funny.

It is very important to prick pomposity.

There's also a very, very important aspect.

God, I have a laugh. To be able to laugh, gives people back the power in a way.

And I sort of think, yeah, have some of that.

Hello and welcome to Ways to Change the World. I'm Christian Guru Murphy. And this is the podcast in which we talk to extraordinary people about the big ideas in their lives and the events that have helped shape

them. My guest today is Jan Ravens, one of the UK's most celebrated impressionists and comedians.

Jan first discovered comedy at Cambridge University's Footlight Society, where she made history

as the first female president.

From there, she helped shape the landscape of UK impression-based comedy on both radio and TV,

with a career spanning over three decades.

Jan's razor-sharp comedic talent has made her a household name.

Now, she's perhaps best known for her work on the hit radio for show Dead Ringers, where her

impressions of figures like Theresa May, Liz Truss, Margaret Thatcher and others have become iconic.

And Dead Ringers are on a 25th anniversary tour, which Jan is part of for the next few months.

Welcome and thanks for coming.

Thank you for having me.

Now we start this usually by asking people how you want to change the world. Wow, that's a big question. Which is a big question.

I guess what, it would be nice for there to be more honesty, more honesty. I mean, particularly

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