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From The Silo: What are the Odds of a Shooting War Between NATO and Russia?

The DSR Network

Chris Cotnoir

Government

4.51.9K Ratings

🗓️ 27 December 2022

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Originally Aired: March 15, 2022 The war in Ukraine is moving into its third week and President Biden is headed to Europe for a meeting with NATO next week. David Rothkopf talks with David Sanger of the New York Times and Dmitri Alperovitch of the Silverado Policy Accelerator about the current state of the conflict and the potential path forward. Is China going to get involved? Why has Putin not used cyber against the West yet? What will come of Biden's meeting with other NATO heads of state? Find out the answer to these and other pressing questions on this insightful episode. Join us! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

9, 12, 10, 28, 2, 23.

0:17.9

This is Deep State Radio, coming to you direct from our super secret studio in the

0:23.8

third sub basement of the Ministry of Snark in Washington, D.C. and from other undisclosed

0:30.3

locations across America and around the world.

0:34.5

Hi, welcome to the podcast. I'm David Roscoff, your host, coming to you from New York

0:38.7

City. We are joined today by Demetri Alpervich, who is the executive chairman of Silverado

0:46.3

Policy Accelerator and was the co-founder of CrowdStrike. We'll be joined in a little bit by David

0:53.0

Sanger, who's currently at a White House press conference. We were going to be joined by Rosa

0:57.4

Brooks, who's had to go deal with a family issue. It's just you and me here to start out

1:03.9

Demetri, and that's good, because I've been interested. You've been drawing into providing

1:11.8

real-time commentary of what's going on in Ukraine. I think it's been very smart and informed,

1:19.7

and I just thought it'd be useful to hear your take on where you think things stand now with

1:25.8

President Slansky about to address the U.S. Congress tomorrow. You know, unfortunately, I don't

1:34.4

think things are in a good position for him or for the people of Ukraine. The reality is that

1:40.1

despite the complete incompetence of the Russian planning for this invasion,

1:46.0

the numerous problems they're having with logistics, with morale, with assumptions that they had

1:50.8

made about the fact that they thought the Ukrainian armed forces would just surrender and melt away.

1:56.5

None of that's, of course, this happened, but nevertheless, despite all those issues,

1:59.7

they're making significant progress, taking more and more territory surrounding cities, and now

2:06.2

pummeling them into oblivion from the air, from artillery strikes, multiple launch rocket systems,

2:12.6

and causing, of course, numerous, numerous civilian casualties. And just today, we had several

2:17.8

journalists, unfortunately, who were killed in Kiev, and American journalists in the Ukrainian one.

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