Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts - From "The Political Scene": Trump's Vindictive Second Term Agenda
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🗓️ 25 November 2023
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While Amicus takes a break to digest turkey and count our blessings, we're sharing this episode of The Political Scene from our friends at The New Yorker.
In recent weeks, Americans have begun to get a clearer picture of what a second Donald Trump Administration could look like. Some clues have come from organizations like the Heritage Foundation, which has laid out policy proposals for the Trump campaign. Others have come from the former President himself. Trump has said he would appoint a prosecutor to “go after” Joe Biden and his family; on Veterans Day, this past weekend, he pledged to root out opponents and critics who he said “live like vermin within the confines of our country.” “Trump wants to get rid of all of these guardrails that protect the government from becoming a spoil system,” the staff writer Jane Mayer says, including by firing members of the federal civil service. Ultimately, how different would a second Presidency be from the last time that Trump was in the White House? “There are two words that I would say really underscore the difference this time, and why Trump in 2024 is arguably a much bigger threat in many ways than he was even eight years ago,” the New Yorker staff writer Susan B. Glasser says. “The two words are ‘retribution’ and ‘termination.’ ” The staff writer Evan Osnos joins Mayer and Glasser to weigh in.
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| 0:17.5 | Hi and welcome to Amicus. This is Slate's podcast about the U.S. Supreme Court, the law, and the rule of law. |
| 0:24.4 | I'm Dahlia Lithwick, and I cover some of those things for Slate. |
| 0:27.7 | And here at Amicus, we hope that your cup runneth over this Thanksgiving if you celebrate. |
| 0:34.1 | We're taking a little break this week, but we wanted to take the opportunity to bring |
| 0:38.0 | you an episode of a podcast we are pretty sure will be of interest. The New Yorkers political |
| 0:43.8 | scene features conversations with Susan Glasser, Jane Mayer, and Evan Osnos every Friday. |
| 0:49.7 | And we wanted to share this recent episode about something that we've been thinking about a whole lot here on amicus, which is the possibility of a second Trump term and what it would mean for you, for me, and for American democracy. |
| 1:09.3 | Welcome to the political scene from the New Yorker, a weekly discussion about the big questions in American politics. |
| 1:15.4 | I'm Evan Osnose, and I am joined as ever by my colleagues, Jane Mayer and Susan Glasser. |
| 1:21.4 | And good morning to you guys. |
| 1:22.9 | Hey, Evan. |
| 1:23.4 | Back when Donald Trump was in office, it was common to hear around Washington that the U.S. could survive one term of President Trump, but not two. |
| 1:39.1 | Well, over the last few weeks, we're starting to get a much clearer picture of what a second Trump term might actually |
| 1:44.3 | look like. And I have to tell you the details are breathtaking. Some of these plans are coming from |
| 1:50.6 | organizations that are not officially linked to the Trump campaign. Other clues are coming actually |
| 1:55.7 | from Trump himself. We pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxist, fascist, and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country. |
| 2:10.6 | So this week, we wanted to take a deep look at the very real possibility of a second Trump term. |
| 2:16.6 | If you weren't paying attention to this stuff before, |
| 2:18.7 | we are now at the point where the details are inescapable and need to be considered. What would |
| 2:24.7 | Trump do if he got back into the Oval Office? How would a second Trump administration be different |
| 2:29.1 | from the first? And would America's democratic institutions survive? There has been a lot of reporting guys over the last few weeks on this subject. It's sort of tumbling into view. And I think people may not have consumed or really processed what we're learning. One of the elements of this that's important has the title Project 2025. We're going to get into the details. But before we do, |
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