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FROM THE FIRST, HUAWEI'S BUSINESS PLAN IS THEFT: 4/4: Wireless Wars: China's Dangerous Domination of 5G and How We're Fighting Back, by Jonathan Pelson

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 25 August 2024

⏱️ 10 minutes

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FROM THE FIRST, HUAWEI'S BUSINESS PLAN IS THEFT: 4/4: Wireless Wars: China's Dangerous Domination of 5G and How We're Fighting Back, by Jonathan Pelson

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/huawei-is-secretly-funding-us-research-despite-being-blacklisted-report-says/ar-AA1o2AOD

In Wireless Wars: China's Dangerous Domination of 5G and How We're Fighting Back, author Jon Pelson explains how America invented cellular technology, taught China how to make the gear, and then handed them the market. Pelson shares never-before-told stories from the executives and scientists who built the industry and describes how China undercut and destroyed competing equipment makers, freeing themselves to export their nation’s network gear—and their surveillance state. He also reveals China’s successful program to purchase the support of the world’s leading political, business, and military figures in their effort to control rival nations’ networks.

What’s more, Pelson draws on his lifelong experience in the telecommunications industry and remarkable access to the sector’s leaders to reveal how innovative companies can take on the Chinese threat and work with counterintelligence and cybersecurity experts to prevent China from closing the trap. He offers unparalleled insights into how 5G impacts businesses, national security and you. Finally, Wireless Wars proposes how America can use its own unique superpower to retake the lead from China.

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0:55.8

John's made the case, Huawei is a threat.

0:58.0

What is to be done?

0:59.4

He lists three possibilities.

1:01.7

Scale? Change the industry standards, or go radical. And he rejects all

1:07.1

three because we come to the fact that what we have here is a challenge to the way we think and the way we do business in the West

1:17.0

and the way Huawei must because it's a product of the Chinese Communist Party, it's a product of state security.

1:24.3

So recommendation, John, is built upon Huawei's weakness.

1:29.7

What is their weakness?

1:31.6

Well, this is the irony. Their weakness is their discipline and their focus and their scale of business.

1:40.7

It doesn't sound like a weakness.

1:42.0

I mean, our weakness weakness when we were competing against them was that we were all every man for himself and people were chaotic and they would just slice and dice us divide and conquer but if you really look at the opportunity here,

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