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🗓️ 16 March 2022
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0:00.0 | This is the Guardian. |
0:09.3 | This article contains a reference to suicide. |
0:12.9 | My name is Tobias Jones. I'm a writer and journalist based in Palmer in the North of Italy. |
0:19.1 | And I wrote, inside Italy's altres, the dangerous fans who control the game. |
0:25.3 | The article was published in December 2016. I've been writing about Italian football and |
0:30.6 | especially Italian football fans for a long time. And the genesis of this article really was |
0:38.0 | the suicide of one of Juventus's head altres, Giotro Bucci in July 2016, when he jumped from |
0:46.1 | a viaduct outside Curin. So what's fascinating about the Italian altres is they are very diverse. |
0:55.6 | So they're very politicised. The vast majority now from the far right, having started from the far |
1:02.2 | left in the late 60s and 70s. But they're also, some of them are adamantly non-political and say, |
1:09.8 | politics shouldn't come anywhere near our terraces. And that sort of dichotomy also applies to |
1:16.7 | organised crimes. So there's a huge overlap between ultra-groups and proper organised crime. |
1:23.9 | And this Giotro Bucci story had a lot of the Calabrian mafia, the Andrangita, on the edges of |
1:31.4 | Juventus altres. But at the same time, there are many ultra-groups who are battling organised crime. |
1:38.6 | So I like those stories in which what you're writing about cuts both ways. There's no sort of |
1:45.6 | black and white to it. Giotro Bucci's death really opened up the ultra-world and gave us a glimpse |
1:55.0 | into what's going on in these groups. And then in the years since the article was published, |
2:03.2 | it's been revealed that Giotro Bucci was actually working as an informant for the Italian secret |
2:08.7 | services. And he was giving insights into the infiltration of the Draugi, which is the name of this |
2:18.1 | Juventus altru group, giving insights into their overlap with the Andrangita and the far right. |
2:24.4 | The other iconic death in the ultra-world happened a few years after Giotro Bucci's death. |
2:33.8 | When Diabolic, the head of the Lassio altres, the Iriducci Bili, was murdered on a part bench |
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