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From the archive: Carlo Rovelli on the weirdness of quantum mechanics (part one)

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🗓️ 28 December 2021

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

It has been more than a century since the groundwork of quantum physics was first formulated and yet the consequences of the theory still elude both scientists and philosophers. Why does light sometimes behave as a wave, and other times as a particle? Why does the outcome of an experiment apparently depend on whether the particles are being observed or not? In the first of two episodes, Ian Sample sits down with the physicist Carlo Rovelli to discuss the strange consequences of quantum theory and the explanation he sets out in his book Helgoland. Help support our independent journalism at theguardian.com/sciencepod

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0:00.0

This is the Guardian. Hi, Science Weekly host Madeline here.

0:14.0

The team are all on their Christmas holidays,

0:17.0

so we've picked out a couple of episodes from the archive for you.

0:21.0

And they're two of my favorites from the past year. Across two

0:26.0

parts Ian Sample delves into the strange world of quantum theory with physicist and

0:32.2

author Carlo Ravelli.

0:35.0

In this episode, Ian gets a crash course in quantum physics,

0:39.0

and here's about some of the mysteries it continues to pose. We'll be playing the second part of

0:45.2

their conversation on Thursday. I hope you enjoy it. In June 1925, 1925, this is Physicist Werner Heisenberg retreated to a wind-swept island called Helgoland or Heligoland in the North Sea.

1:08.0

He was really just beginning his career and yet clambering over rocks and looking out over white sands he was on the

1:15.9

cusp of a discovery that would unveil an entirely new perspective on the world quantum

1:21.3

theory the world, quantum theory.

1:25.6

As quantum unfolded itself, observations about the behavior of atoms, energy and light

1:31.3

became explainable. A lot of that behavior was very strange.

1:36.4

Electrons seemed to be in two or more places at once. When taken far away from each other, particles appear to instantaneously know things about one another, something Einstein termed spooky action at a distance.

1:52.0

Quantum theory unleashed mystery so incomprehensible that they've baffled

1:57.3

both scientists and philosophers to this day. So how should we understand quantum physics? Will we ever get to the bottom of its enigmas?

2:07.0

We have a theory that works very well. In fact, I would say more than a theory that works very well.

2:12.0

It's probably the theory that works best that we ever had in science.

2:16.0

And yet if we try to ask, okay, so what is it telling us about the world?

2:21.0

It just doesn't make sense. It's like it's telling us about the world. It just doesn't make sense. It's like it's telling us about the world,

2:25.9

don't ask.

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