They call me into the Zoom because it was still pandemic time. And we were really hardly in the office at all.

And I thought, oh, my God, I see like six people on the Zoom. I know what's happening.

Interest rates are shooting up faster than they ever have. And I'm here in FinTech, you know, mortgages.

I mean, the business just dried up. So I was more than happy to go because,

Mike, I was doing the right thing. I thought, what am I going to do with my cash? Because I was

making good money. I mean, like I tell you, I started out at $16,000 a year. And then to be in a job where I'm earning six figures plus, that was not in my mind as a researcher.

I put money out of my mind. But then I had the money and I had to decide what to do with it.

So I decided that I would go into multifamily real estate. I went from having no idea how to write anything to writing up my own

scientific papers, which is, I mean, I gotta say in a way it's crazy difficult. But another way,

because it's so stereotyped, the way we speak, if you take a look at scientific papers,

and they're all written up in the, in the strangest way.

But we all write, it seems almost in the same style. So I do all of these things that have sort of

qualified me to be the nexus. People say, you know, who is George Roberts? Well, he's the man who knows

everybody in real estate. And so because of that, and because I do

spend so many, so much time, and I spend so many hours going on podcasts, hosting my own podcast,

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