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This Naked Mind Podcast

From Numbing to Nurturing: Desire vs. Resistance | Alcohol Freedom Coaching | EP 879

This Naked Mind Podcast

Annie Grace

Education, Self-improvement

4.72.8K Ratings

🗓️ 10 February 2026

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Trigger Warning: This episode contains discussions of suicide, mental health crises, domestic violence, & family trauma. How do you build the desire to stop drinking when alcohol feels like your only escape from an overwhelming life? Richard shares his struggle with using alcohol to cope with family challenges, including his son's mental health crisis and decades of marital strife, while Stephanie uncovers a deep-rooted fear that she must be "everything her husband needs" or risk losing him. Both face the uncomfortable truth that alcohol has become essential to their coping and connection. Coach Soraya helps Richard explore activities that bring him joy outside his difficult home environment, while Coach Hayley guides Stephanie through layers of guilt and self-blame to discover an empowered path forward. In Richard’s Session: Naming the “pit in my stomach” & why alcohol feels like quick relief Caregiver stress, court dates, & how trauma at home boosts cravings Swimming, hot–cold routines, & finding joy outside the house Mapping resentment in a long marriage without shaming himself Health signals that matter: rising blood pressure & honest tracking Practical ways to build the desire to stop drinking when life is chaotic …and more topics on coping, boundaries, & self-compassion In Stephanie’s Session: “We connected over wine”—grieving old rituals without glamorizing them The “chameleon” habit & learning to be herself in her marriage Reframing guilt into an empowered decision to grow Talking intimacy without alcohol Expecting discomfort, choosing compassion, building new cues for connection Tiny experiments that strengthen how to build the desire to stop drinking at home …and more insights on mindset, identity, & shared change Soraya Odishoo is a compassionate Certified This Naked Mind Coach who blends somatic healing with therapeutic models to support recovery. She serves people who feel disconnected from their true selves and want freedom from substances or behaviors that no longer serve them. Her collaborative heart-centered, trust-based trauma-informed approach has a strong focus on accessibility for BIPOC & LGBTQIA+ communities. Soraya’s passion is guiding clients back to their personal power so they can find peace, purpose, & lasting healing. Learn more about Coach Soraya: https://thisnakedmind.com/coach/soraya-arjan-odishoo-alpc/ Hayley Scherders is a certified TNM Coach with training from the Canadian Addiction and Mental Health Association. Drawing from personal experiences, Hayley understands how tough change can be & provides a safe, compassionate, & judgment-free space where her clients can feel supported. She believes that with the right mindset, anyone can change their life at any time. Learn more about Coach Hayley: https://thisnakedmind.com/coach/hayley-scherders/ Episode links: nakedmindpath.com Related Episodes: Getting Past Emotional Drinking Triggers | Reader’s Question | E616 - https://thisnakedmind.com/ep-616-readers-question-getting-past-emotional-drinking-triggers/ Is Motivation Alone Enough? Alcohol Freedom Coaching | E774 - https://thisnakedmind.com/is-motivation-alone-enough-alcohol-freedom-coaching-e774/ Finding Hope for Long-time Drinkers | Reader’s Question | E600 - https://thisnakedmind.com/ep-600-reader-question-finding-hope-for-long-time-drinkers/ Ready to take the next step on your journey?  Visit https://learn.thisnakedmind.com/podcast-resources for free resources, programs, & more. Until next week, stay curious! Quince: Go to⁠ ⁠⁠Quince.com/naked⁠⁠⁠ for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns  Hungryroot: Get 40% off your first box + a free item for life at ⁠⁠⁠Hungryroot.com/mind⁠⁠⁠ with code mind BetterHelp: BetterHelp makes it easy to get matched online with a qualified therapist. Sign up and get 10% off at ⁠BetterHelp.com/nakedmind⁠ Shopify: Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial and start selling today at⁠ ⁠⁠Shopify.com/mind⁠

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0:00.0

Welcome to This Naked Mind podcast, where we question the role of alcohol in our lives without rule, shame, or judgment.

0:12.4

I'm Annie Grace, and I'm so thrilled to have you with us today.

0:15.1

In this special series, I'm inviting you into something truly unique and deeply personal.

0:19.7

You're going to be listening in on

0:21.0

real one-on-one coaching sessions between some of our certified this naked mind coaches and members of our

0:26.2

community who are on their own journey with alcohol. These sessions are raw, unfiltered, and

0:31.3

completely unscripted. But before we dive in, I want to prepare you for what you're about to hear.

0:36.4

These conversations are real,

0:38.2

real people, real struggles, real emotions. They're honest and they're sometimes painful,

0:43.0

and they may even be uncomfortable to listen to. But that's the point. So no matter where you are

0:47.5

on your own personal journey, I encourage you to listen with an open heart and an open mind.

0:52.5

Now let's step into the world of this naked mind

0:54.4

coaching because this is where change begins. Welcome. I'm Coach Soraya. Great, great to see you.

1:04.0

Thank you. How's it going today? Oh, I just finished a content call with Coach Anoa and started out, well, it's not been a great day in a while, but I've been on the August path.

1:20.7

So I've shared more than I thought I would and probably been to a meeting a day.

1:25.7

But I was swimming this morning, which is one of the highlights of my life because I tend to forget.

1:32.3

I had a little bit of a swimmer's high.

1:35.0

I did about a mile and a half in an hour.

1:37.4

And went home and did my hot tub, cold plunge routine.

1:42.0

And I actually felt pretty good.

1:43.8

I said, if I could feel like this,

1:45.8

I wouldn't need to drink. But then my wife comes home and starts ranting about our son. And I don't

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