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Transforming Trauma

From Music to Trauma Therapy with Elizabeth Remic Simonian, Integrative and Somatic Therapist

Transforming Trauma

Brad Kammer

Self-improvement, Mental Health, Health & Fitness, Education

4.6 • 140 Ratings

šŸ—“ļø 4 March 2026

ā±ļø 48 minutes

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Summary

"NARMĀ® opened a whole new world to me... it's not just something you put on. NARM is, for me, a way of life. It's not just something you throw at somebody." - Elizabeth Remic Simonian

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On this episode of Transforming Trauma, host Emily Ruth welcomes Elizabeth Remic Simonian, an integrative and somatic therapist based in Rotterdam, Somatic Experiencing practitioner, and trained jazz vocalist, for a deeply heartful conversation about how the NeuroAffective Relational ModelĀ® (NARMĀ®) transformed not only her clinical work but her entire way of being in relationship with others.

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Elizabeth traces her journey from conservatory-trained musician to trauma therapist, sharing the pivotal moments that called her toward depth and healing. She reflects on how encountering NARM for the first time revealed something she had never experienced in years of therapy: being asked what she actually wanted. From there, Elizabeth explores the profound shifts that unfolded as she began tracking her own efforting, reclaiming authenticity, and understanding that leaving yourself out of the equation is its own form of disconnection. She also shares how bringing NARM's relational presence into her music teaching created a palpable shift in her students' openness and creative freedom, and how singing with more embodiment and less shame changed her relationship with her own voice. The conversation closes with a tender example from Elizabeth's clinical practice, illustrating what it looks like to meet a client's vulnerability with genuine humanity rather than professional distance.

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SPACE is an Inner Development Program of Support and Self-Discovery for Therapists on the Personal, Interpersonal, and Transpersonal Levels offered by the Complex Trauma Training Center. This experiential learning program offers an immersive group experience designed to cultivate space for self-care, community support, and deepening vitality in our professional role as therapists. Learn more about how to join.

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The Complex Trauma Training Center (CTTC) is a professional organization providing clinical training, education, consultation, and mentorship for psychotherapists and mental health professionals working with individuals and communities impacted by Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACEs) and Complex Trauma (C-PTSD). CTTC provides NARMĀ® Therapist and NARMĀ® Master Therapist Training programs, as well as ongoing monthly groups in support of those learning NARM. CTTC also offers the SPACE Inner Development Program for Therapists, providing a depth-oriented professional community for those seeking a supportive network of therapists focused on three levels of shared human experience: personal, interpersonal & transpersonal. The Transforming Trauma podcast embodies the spirit of CTTC – best described by its three keywords: depth, connection, and heart - and offers guidance to those interested in effective, transformational trauma-informed care.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Transforming Trauma Podcast.

0:05.2

Transforming Trauma is presented by the Complex Trauma Training Center.

0:09.2

I'm your host, Emily Ruth, and I'm so glad you've joined us today.

0:13.0

Licensed mental health professionals, we warmly invite you to join our summer

0:18.0

26 NARM Therapist Training, a hybrid online or in-person immersion

0:22.8

into the transformative power of the neuro-effective relational model. This advanced clinical training

0:28.0

is designed specifically for those seeking to deepen their expertise in healing complex trauma

0:32.6

while offering the flexibility of online learning combined with the depth of in-person experiential work.

0:38.0

From January to August, 26, you will be part of a supportive learning community that meets

0:43.0

both virtually or in person in Salt Lake City, integrating mindfulness and clinical expertise.

0:48.6

Through four comprehensive modules, you'll gain specialized trauma-informed knowledge and

0:53.1

skills to confidently and compassionately

0:55.5

address the impact of adverse childhood experiences and complex trauma. Together, we'll explore

1:00.7

how to support the resolution of attachment, developmental, relational, cultural, and intergenerational

1:06.3

trauma using a neurobiologically informed approach that promotes post-traumatic growth. Embodying both

1:11.9

professional and personal growth, you'll become a catalyst for transformation in your practice

1:16.7

and community. Enrollment is now open for licensed psychotherapists, counselors, social workers,

1:23.0

psychologists, and other mental health professionals, as well as graduate trainees and interns working toward

1:28.4

licensure. Visit complex trauma training center.com to learn more and secure your spot in this hybrid

1:34.1

online and in-person training experience in Salt Lake City, Utah. And now for our interview.

1:40.5

My guest today is Elizabeth Remic Simonian, an integrative and somatic therapist based in Rotterdam.

1:47.5

Born to Swedish and Armenian roots in Cyprus, and shaped by years moving between cultures,

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