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American Thought Leaders

From Iran to Venezuela—How Trump Is Neutralizing Beijing’s Allies | Gordon Chang

American Thought Leaders

The Epoch Times

Politics, Government, News

4.91.2K Ratings

🗓️ 4 March 2026

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Dozens of Iranian leaders, including Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, have been killed in U.S.–Israeli joint strikes on Iran.

In this episode, I’m sitting down again with seasoned China analyst Gordon Chang, author of “Plan Red,” to understand how this is changing the global geopolitical landscape—especially for Beijing.

Including the Venezuela raid that captured regime leader Nicolás Maduro, this is the second time President Donald Trump appears to be neutralizing a key ally of Beijing.

Views expressed in this video are opinions of the host and the guest, and do not necessari

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0:00.0

Dozens of top Iranian leaders, including Ayatollah Hamine, have been killed in U.S.-Israel

0:05.1

joint strikes on Iran.

0:06.4

Iran has a tradition.

0:08.9

That tradition was interrupted for 47 years by the theocratic regime.

0:13.9

I'm sitting down with China analyst Gordon Chang to unpack how these strikes are reshaping

0:18.6

the global balance of power and why Beijing is feeling

0:21.8

the heat. I believe that President Trump is going after the Chinese and he's not doing it directly,

0:28.3

but he is doing it indirectly and he's cutting off their sources of support. This is the

0:33.7

struggle of our lifetimes and we'd better recognize it. This is American Thought Leaders and I'm Jania Kelek.

0:44.3

Gordon Chang, such a pleasure to have you back on American Thought Leaders.

0:48.3

Thank you so much, Jan.

0:51.3

So Gordon, hot off the presses, China's UN ambassador on this March 1st emergency session at the

0:58.5

UN has basically said that the U.S. and Israel strikes were brazen violations of sovereignty

1:05.0

and demanded an immediate ceasefire to what's happening in Iran. What's your reaction? Well, that's China's reaction.

1:13.6

You know, it's the same one they had in Venezuela. All they did was they took the same press release.

1:19.1

They used the whiteout. They took out the word Venezuela. They put in Iran. They took out the word

1:25.1

Venezuelan and they put in Iranian, and there you have it.

1:30.4

China is not a superpower.

1:33.0

If it ever wants to, you know, it always criticizes the U.S., but when the U.S. is determined

1:38.5

to do something, it cannot stop us.

1:41.0

And that shows us the limits of Chinese power.

1:52.0

It's a very interesting reality, or contrasting here, or comparing with the Venezuelan reality. And I can't help but notice that we have two, let's call it, totalitarian leaders that have been deposed in the last very, very short period

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