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This Naked Mind Podcast

From “I Blew It” to “I’m Learning”: Stopping the Shame Spiral | Alcohol Freedom Coaching | EP 883

This Naked Mind Podcast

Annie Grace

Education, Self-improvement

4.72.8K Ratings

🗓️ 24 February 2026

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

Stopping the shame spiral—what if the fastest way out isn’t more willpower, but more compassion? In this episode of Alcohol Freedom Coaching, Coach Hayley supports Carol, a newly retired grandmother who felt “so far behind” after a vacation slip, and Coach Cole guides Nancy, a devoted mom caring for a daughter with complex special needs, who’s learning to relax without wine and let go of “I should be doing more” guilt. Together, they model how to shift from self-blame to curiosity, build emotion-based goals (happiness, energy, motivation), and reconnect with support inside The Path. In Carol’s session: Naming the belief: “I’m so far behind” vs. “I’m exactly where I’m meant to be.” Turning slips into data points—not identity—and choosing curiosity over criticism. Building emotion-based goals: happiness, energy, motivation as a north star. Breaking overwhelm: 15-minute re-entry (one video, one call, one journal prompt). Navigating travel and social events without defaulting to comparison or shame. Finding connection again: taking up space on calls even when you feel “not bad enough.” Practical reframe for 3 a.m. thoughts and night-after guilt. Tools for stopping the shame spiral after a vacation or wedding slip .…and more. In Nancy’s session: Spotting guilt in the body (chest/shoulders tightness) and softening with micro-moments. Permission slips: letting older siblings help, one small experiment at a time. Replacing the 4 p.m. wine ritual with soothing, sensory evening routines. Distinguishing healthy guilt (course-correct) from toxic shame (self-attack). Creating a “treat” that isn’t alcohol: porch time, breathwork, a few pages of a novel. Scripts to ask for help without apologizing for your needs.How curiosity interrupts ruminating about “not doing enough.” Practical ideas for stopping the shame spiral when responsibilities feel nonstop .…and more. Hayley Scherders is a certified TNM Coach with training from the Canadian Addiction and Mental Health Association. Drawing from personal experiences, Hayley understands how tough change can be and provides a safe, compassionate, and judgment-free space where her clients can feel supported. She believes that with the right mindset, anyone can change their life at any time. Learn more about Coach Hayley: https://thisnakedmind.com/coach/hayley-scherders/ Cole Harvey is a certified Naked Mind Senior Coach. For years, he felt lost and used alcohol as a way to cope, until he decided to go alcohol-free and focus on finding his purpose. Through curiosity, self-compassion, and adventure, he transformed his life. As a habit change and mindset coach, Cole helps young men understand themselves, build better habits, and find meaning. Learn more about Coach Cole: https://thisnakedmind.com/coach/cole-harvey/ Episode links: nakedmindpath.com Related Episodes: How can I not feel guilty for all the time I spent trying to fix myself? - Reader Question - E240 - https://thisnakedmind.com/ep-240-reader-question-how-can-i-not-feel-guilty-for-all-the-time-i-spent-trying-to-fix-myself/  How to Explore Drinking Without Judgment - Alcohol Freedom Coaching - E813 - https://thisnakedmind.com/how-to-explore-drinking-without-judgment-alcohol-freedom-coaching-e813/ Ready to take the next step on your journey?  Visit https://learn.thisnakedmind.com/podcast-resources for free resources, programs, and more. Until next week, stay curious! Quince: Go to⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Quince.com/naked⁠⁠⁠⁠ for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns  Hungryroot: Get 40% off your first box + a free item for life at ⁠⁠⁠⁠Hungryroot.com/mind⁠⁠⁠⁠ with code mind BetterHelp: BetterHelp makes it easy to get matched online with a qualified therapist. Sign up and get 10% off at ⁠⁠BetterHelp.com/nakedmind⁠⁠ Shopify: Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial and start selling today at⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Shopify.com/mind⁠⁠

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to This Naked Mind podcast, where we question the role of alcohol in our lives without rule, shame, or judgment.

0:12.4

I'm Annie Grace, and I'm so thrilled to have you with us today.

0:15.2

In this special series, I'm inviting you into something truly unique and deeply personal.

0:19.7

You're going to be listening in

0:20.8

on real one-on-one coaching sessions between some of our certified this naked mind coaches and members of our

0:26.2

community who are on their own journey with alcohol. These sessions are raw, unfiltered, and

0:31.3

completely unscripted. But before we dive in, I want to prepare you for what you're about to hear.

0:36.4

These conversations are real,

0:38.2

real people, real struggles, real emotions. They're honest and they're sometimes painful,

0:42.9

and they may even be uncomfortable to listen to. But that's the point. So no matter where you are

0:47.5

on your own personal journey, I encourage you to listen with an open heart and an open mind.

0:52.5

Now let's step into the world of this naked mind

0:54.4

coaching because this is where change begins. Hello, I am Coach Haley, Alcohol Freedom Guide

1:02.8

at This Naked Mind and one of the coaches inside the path. On today's episode, you'll get the

1:07.5

opportunity to listen in as I coach one of our path members. Welcome, Carol.

1:12.6

I would love to kick things off, say hello, get to know you a little bit better. And I would

1:19.0

love for you to introduce yourself and let us know what we're going to be exploring today.

1:23.5

For sure. Hi, Haley. Carol here, I'm living in southwestern Ontario. It's been a hot summer, that's for sure. I joined the path more out of not desperation, but I knew I wanted to stop. I was at that point in my life. I had retired. I was drinking a bottle, a wine a day. And when you're retired, you can start at one in the afternoon and

1:46.1

not worry or you think it's okay to do that. But it got to a point where it was interrupting my day

1:51.7

in that. So I did join the path in June 2025. I was doing so well. I had actually just got to this

1:59.4

I'm quitting drinking and I did it for two months straight,

2:02.6

started this magical path of I didn't even want it. I had no triggers. I loved going to the gym

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