From Grief to Ghost Hunting, Part Two | Grave Talks CLASSIC
The Grave Talks | Haunted, Paranormal & Supernatural
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🗓️ 22 August 2025
⏱️ 21 minutes
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Summary
When your hero passes to the other side—especially when you’re a child—the loss can be shattering. You wish for just one more day, one more hour, one more second to say what you never got to. But life rarely grants that chance. For eight-year-old Jon Kozuska, that wish seemed to come true in the most unexpected—and impossible—way.
Late one night in his grandparents’ old Victorian home, Jon made his way downstairs for water. On the landing, he froze. There, walking past the bottom of the stairs, was his grandfather—full color, solid, alive. The only problem? His grandfather had already passed away. That single moment would ignite a lifelong obsession with the paranormal, propelling Jon from ghost books to hands-on investigations and experiments aimed at uncovering the truth.
Today on The Grave Talks, Jon Kozuska’s story—from the night his hero returned to the science behind chasing spirits. This is Part Two of our conversation.
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| 0:00.0 | A Better Help ad. |
| 0:02.3 | Lewis Capaldi partnered with Better Help to get word out about how important therapy can be. |
| 0:07.6 | I struggle most weeks to get up, get myself up and ready and go to therapy or whatever. |
| 0:13.0 | Even like to open the laptop to talk to, my therapist sometimes could be really difficult. |
| 0:17.4 | But I do it because I realise how important it is for me to continue to feel good. |
| 0:22.0 | Because I felt the best I've felt in a long time through therapy. |
| 0:25.6 | Learn more about online therapy at betterhelp.com. |
| 0:29.5 | A better help ad. |
| 0:31.5 | Lewis Capaldi partnered with BetterHelp to get word out about how important therapy can be. |
| 0:36.8 | I struggle most weeks to get up, get myself up and ready and go to therapy or whatever. |
| 0:42.2 | Even like to open the laptop to talk to, my therapist sometimes could be really difficult. |
| 0:46.6 | But I do it because I realise how important it is for me to continue to feel good. |
| 0:51.0 | I felt the best I've felt in a long time through therapy. |
| 0:54.8 | Learn more about online therapy at betterhelp.com. |
| 0:59.7 | Welcome to part two of our conversation with John Kazuka about the science of the dead. |
| 1:04.0 | I was talking the other day about just the buildings, the structures that there's so many |
| 1:10.6 | now where one can go and |
| 1:12.5 | investigate, you know, you can rent it out. I mean, this is something that didn't exist, |
| 1:16.9 | you know, 10 years ago, or it was just starting around then. Is there an inherent danger |
| 1:23.8 | in, you know, going into some of these places in mass, you know, just a weekend after |
| 1:29.9 | weekend after weekend, there's new people coming in. Everybody's kind of, you know, shaking the |
| 1:33.9 | tree a little bit differently. Is there a danger in, you know, these places already have something |
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