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Hey, everybody, Dan here. As some of you may know, we started this podcast back in 2016

at the kind of earlier edge of the podcasting era. It's like one of the few times in my life.

I've ever been ahead of a trend. If I'm honest, that was actually just copying my friend Sam Harris

who had a podcast and I always copy him. Anyway, back then, one of our early guests was a guy named

Dr. Michael Jervé and he had his own podcast called Finding Mastery. In that interview,

which by the way, we'll put a link to the interview in the show notes here. In that interview,

we talked about how we found meditation by accident and how that led him down the path of becoming

an expert in sports psychology. He eventually worked for the Seattle Seahawks and Olympic athletes

helping them perform at their best. Now, Dr. Michael Jervé has a book coming out called The

First Rule of Mastery. Stop worrying about what people think of you. The book is all about

understanding and overcoming one of the greatest constrictors of human potential, our fear of

other people's opinions. Or as Dr. Mike calls it FOPO, you can get the book if you want to buy it

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