Welcome to another edition of The Oath and the Office podcast.

I am John Fiegel Sung.

It is so good to have you with us.

This podcast is, of course, based on the essential book, The Oath and the Office, a guide to the Constitution

for future presidents, which is authored by the star of our show, Professor Corey Brechtnyder,

the man with a PhD in Politics from Princeton, the law degree from Stanford, and he fights

to enrich the minds of students in the Polyside Department at Brown. Many of you've read Professor Brechtnyder on CNN and MSNBC and the New York Times. Check out his most recent book, The Presidents and the People, The Five Leaders Who Threatened Democracy and the Citizens who fought to defend it. Every week we gather together here and I get my free constitutional law class. Professor Brechtnyder, it's good to see you.

Thanks so much, John. I'm looking forward to this one. Of course, we have an amazing guest,

Mike Sacks, who interviewed me. I think it was one of the first interviews I did when the oath in the office first came out in 2018. And he interviewed me of all places at Fox 5. So he'll talk

about the transition from being a premier legal TV journalist to running for Congress.

He's challenging Mike Lawler in New York.

Mike Lawler, who just announced, by the way, that he's not running for governor.

He's going to seek re-election.

And Mike is seeking, I should say, the Democratic nomination.

But he's not your average candidate.

I mean, this is somebody who knows the topics

that we cover inside and out.

It really was for a very long time,

a premier legal journalist.

He has a law degree as well.

And so that mix really interests me.

And we're always talking about hope and the need to stand up.

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