Birthright Citizenship Showdown: State AGs vs. Trump (with NM Attorney General Raúl Torrez)

The Oath and The Office

Corey Brettschneider

Government, News, Politics

4.9 • 591 Ratings

🗓️ 16 July 2025

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

In this urgent episode of The Oath and The Office, hosts Corey Brettschneider and John Fugelsang unpack the high-stakes constitutional battle over birthright citizenship. With the Supreme Court limiting lower courts' power, New Mexico Attorney General Raúl Torrez joins the show to reveal how state attorneys general nationwide are leading the charge to protect the 14th Amendment from Trump's unprecedented attempt to strip citizenship rights.
Before their in-depth interview with Attorney General Torrez—a prominent constitutional advocate and key figure in state-level legal resistance—Corey and John analyze the Trump administration’s alarming moves, including mass firings at critical federal agencies like Education and State, and Trump's controversial threats to remove the Federal Reserve Chair.
Tune in to hear vital insights from AG Torrez and sharp analysis from Corey and John on how these escalating power struggles are shaping America’s constitutional future—and how state leaders are stepping up when federal institutions falter.

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0:00.0	Welcome to another edition of the Oath and the Office podcast.
0:14.1	I am John Fuglesang.
0:15.2	It is so good to be with you again.
0:17.3	It has been a very crazy week, friends.
0:19.5	The Supreme Court has ruled that Donald Trump
0:21.7	can dismantle the entire Department of Education, but somehow Joe Biden can't cancel student loans.
0:27.7	So let's go to the man himself, the star of the podcast to help us make sense of this weary world.
0:33.0	Professor Corey Brett Schneider, the man, the Mac, with a PhD in politics from Princeton, a law degree from Stanford, and he's used these powers to enrich the lives of students in the Polyside Department at Brown University.
0:44.7	I remember growing up reading Professor Brechtznyder back in the 50s and the New York Times, CNN, MSNBC, and he is the author of The Oath in the Office, a guide of the Constitution for future presidents.
0:55.6	I also recommend his book, The Presidents of the People, Five Leaders Who Threatened Democracy and the Citizens who Fought to Defend it.
1:02.5	Professor Brett Schneider, it's great to see you.
1:04.8	Thanks so much, John.
1:05.9	I'm looking forward to this episode.
1:07.5	Of course, the constitutional crisis deepens, and we'll talk about the dismantling of the
1:12.5	Department of Education against what, the legislation that protects it. We'll talk about the
1:18.2	danger that Trump might do something truly unprecedented and try to fire the Fed Chair and the
1:23.9	complications. But most of all, as eager as I am to talk about those issues,
1:29.0	I'm also- We got a guest today. We got a special guest, Professor.
1:31.0	I'm eager to talk about that. And we are going to have the Attorney General from New Mexico,
1:36.3	Raul Torres, actually a fellow graduate of Stanford Law School. And it's going to be an amazing
1:42.6	discussion because really the front lines right now, after the
1:46.3	destruction of so much of the power of the federal courts in the birthright citizenship
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