Welcome to part two of our conversation with Barry Frankish on the Grave Talks.

Do you think that the engineering of these massive trains and things of that nature make it more apt to have a severe or haunting experiences haunting, just with the energy that's expelled by the machinery? I think it does because I say there's no, there's no, there's no technology. There's no, there's no Wi-Fi, there's no electric gizmos and no, I mean, it's just pure water, steam pressure. It's like a big, it basically makes it a pressure cooker.

And there's that much power in these things.

I mean, this is things on yesterday.

As you know, modern technology, it plays avid with paranormal.

I mean, you cannot, you cannot substantiate something

what's been interfered with all time by Wi-Fi waves and stuff.

These trains don't have anything like that.

These are proper, back-to-basics, lump to metal, basically.

We've run by hot water and coal.

I mean, and the UK in its A-day did run on coal.

I mean, you can imagine pits everywhere.

Everything, the countryside was steaming with trains running up and down it.

And some of the essence will be still there.

I mean, people working day to day, they put that much effort into it.

I dare say, we'll have a pass over.

The ones who enjoyed it, or remember ones what did they enjoy, will be still doing what they do in the next life thinking they're still doing what we're doing.

Sure, sure.

Have you ever, I'm sure you've heard of stories, you know, of the like ghost trains and things of that.

Oh, yeah.

People hearing, maybe even seeing a light.

What sort of stories or accounts have you heard in your life about that?

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