From Chef to Restaurateur With Michael Mina

The Dave Chang Show

The Ringer

Society & Culture, Arts, Food

4.8 • 8.6K Ratings

🗓️ 3 November 2025

⏱️ 89 minutes

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Summary

Dave interviews and catches up with chef and restaurateur Michael Mina (8:45). They discuss the significance of Michael Mina's Aqua restaurant, how he changed kitchen systems for the better, and the expectations put on a chef vs. a restaurateur. Dave then answers a protein-focused Ask Dave before making a lobster pot pie à la Mina himself (51:27) and testing a new segment with show favorites Chris Ying and Noelle Cornelio (1:17:48). Learn more about the Mina Group: https://theminagroup.com/ Learn more about Michael Mina's Bourbon Steak in San Francisco at the St. Francis: https://www.bourbonsteak.com/location/san-francisco/ Learn more about Bourbon Steak DC: https://www.bourbonsteakdc.com/ Learn more about Masters of Scale: https://mastersofscale.com/ Listen to Dave's interview with Guy Kawasaki at Masters of Scale: https://guykawasaki.com/from-chef-to-dad-david-changs-new-definition-of-success/ Learn more about Michael Mina's restaurant with Ayesha Curry: https://internationalsmoke.com/ Learn more about Michael Mina's new bourbon speakeasy with Stephen Curry: https://the8thrule.com/ Listen to our Protein episode with Michael Ormsbee: https://open.spotify.com/episode/24ogvRPFU70iUr4JLGafJZ?si=qNw73UNQQtauCyXbgoP3eg Learn more about Noma: https://noma.dk/ Host: Dave Chang Guest: Michael Mina Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer Majordomo Media Coordinator: Molly O’Keeffe Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino Editor: Stefano Sanchez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Imagine a delicious patty nestled between two buns with cheese and ketchup.
0:04.7	It's not a burger.
0:05.6	That patty is actually sausage, which makes this a sandwich.
0:08.6	A breakfast sausage sandwich.
0:10.1	The new 199 sausage sandwich from McDonald's.
0:12.8	Made with RSPCA, short pork.
0:15.6	Until 11 a.m.
0:16.6	Price and participation may vary.
0:17.8	Up charges and fees apply to delivery.
0:19.2	Subjects of availability.
0:20.1	Today I have one of the great chefs in American history, and I joke that he's
0:25.9	one of the forefathers of the culinary version of the West Coast offense and football created
0:32.5	by Bill Walsh. And I think that he clearly has restaurants that you've probably eaten at and you love
0:40.9	because he's one of the very best America's ever produced,
0:44.1	but he has been super,
0:46.7	super instrumental in just the lineage,
0:50.7	the alumni,
0:51.2	all that stuff,
0:52.0	but he has been one of the very first chefs to recreate
0:56.2	how to think about food, how to organize service, how to expand a restaurant group, so on and so forth.
1:04.4	And if you are in the business or even if you're not in the business and you want to pick up
1:08.8	tips about entrepreneurship or business
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