That had to have been surreal, right? Like the end of your day, you're driving a cab in New York,

and you just been at the White House earlier that day.

Telling people, guess what I did today? Yeah.

And they, you know, it's funny, they got, they either laughed or they looked at their watch

and they looked around and they wanted to get out of there as fast as they could to get out of my cap.

The next year, we ended up in India. We were in India and that was when our embassy in Tehran

was overrun and we were in India. They had to sneak us out of town out of Calcutta in the

middle of the night. And fortunately, they had a plane for us and they flew us to Europe.

I mean, we had all kinds of, but so it's been quite a ride, you know.

So you sat in with the orchestra and the pit?

The Vienna Philharmonic, yeah.

You didn't play.

I didn't play.

But you were present.

But they give it to young music students who are talented,

and what it does is it really excites them in a way that,

because I wasn't that interested in classical music. So I auditioned

and then got in. And so I started making impressions on people who were big shots in the business

and ultimately performed and recorded with these people. They invited me to do all these things.

But it wasn't so easy because there were, when I graduated from Curtis, when I graduated from Curtis,

I had a piece of paper saying I could play the clarinet. Did you know there's a technology that's

actually an app on your phone that uses sound waves to tell your brain what you want your brain to do?

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