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Welcome to the chase.

Hello and welcome back to the show.

Hello, Ben. How are you?

Doing great, Patrick.

Thanks everybody for joining us. We're going to have some fun this time.

I every once in a while have a clever idea. This was one of them.

I was walking around at some point. And I said, ah, the seven habits of highly ineffective people.

That would be interesting and fun to talk about. So that's what we're going to do. I tasked you.

I asked you. I said, hey, I've got this fun idea. Come up with seven anti-habits, seven opposite of Stephen Covey's habits.

And so for folks who don't know, we have certainly talked about it before.

We haven't talked about it in a while.

I actually have it next to me.

The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People by Stephen Covey.

It's a book that came out, I think, in the 70s or 80s.

I think I should know that.

But it's a book we love that we highly recommend. And we're going to today talk about the

opposite of those seven habits. And so I'm just going to lead in with a bit of a quote from the

book itself just to give us a place to start. And then, Ben, you're going to walk us through what

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