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Hey, this is Dave Beltser live at SolarCon

with Entrepreneurs The Playbook.

I almost said favorite book.

And that's because you're my favorite friend,

especially in Solar and Sales. He is a legend and he's humble, which is why I love Michael O'Donnell.

Michael O'Donnell, welcome back.

Thank you so much.

So good to be with you again.

I think you just like me so much because every time we're together

we're in these amazing epic places with crazy stuff going on. So that's got to build this

affinity affinity affinity. I have to tell you something that we have a greater chance of being in these

epic places that not because we live epic lives. Yes we do. And majority of the days

I'm in an epic place around epic people, whether it be Tahiti, New York City.

Tahiti was good.

Great.

And you brought, speaking of Tahiti, a side of your personality that I love is that you understand the idea that we never will overachieve our own self image. And there are some things going on in Tahiti that are not

comfortable I think my daughter explained it is we did some uncomfortable stuff

yeah I was up in a tree for like 18 hours. Like why am I

in T. E. D. And up in a tree for 18 hours. Yeah why were rich people

doing a vision quest? Yeah why are rich people paying to do things poor people hate to do?

I did have a good view from that tree.

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