From a bonfire of red tape to Grenfell: a case study in societal failure

The Two Matts

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News, News Commentary, Government, Politics

4.4 • 523 Ratings

🗓️ 6 September 2024

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

The appalling negligence and greed that resulted in 72 people dying in the Grenfell disaster is laid bare. The Matts wonder why nobody is already on remand for manslaughter. They wonder whether the system is actually broken or if it’s working as it was set up to. They wonder how people like Jacob Rees-Mogg sleep at night. They wonder how the litany of failures over Grenfell is compatible with any notion we are a genuinely progressive society. They wonder if this inquiry, like so many others before it, will actually change a thing.

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Further Reading

The Lives Of Grenfel Tower: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/ng-interactive/2018/may/14/lives-of-grenfell-tower-victims-fire

Dawn Foster's piece for the New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/20/opinion/london-tower-grenfell-fire.html

Trump’s Red-Pill Podcast Tour - Helen Lewis: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/09/trump-lex-fridman-podcast-tour/679702/

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0:57.4	Hello, I'm Matt Kelly.
0:58.2	And I'm Matt Dancona.
0:59.1	And this is the two mats for the weekending Friday, the 6th of September.
1:03.3	Coming to you from the Matto sphere, it says here.
1:06.1	Well, we talked about Grenfell.
1:07.9	We did.
1:08.2	And it's a very sad and, you know, grave issue, which
1:15.5	has to be addressed in a, in a, with appropriate seriousness.
1:19.2	I hope we did it justice.
1:20.3	Well, I was worried going into it that we would, because there's so much that we've just
1:24.7	get lost in a myasma of, of, of despair. I think we've tried to look at the big issues.
1:29.2	I think we have picked up three or four points that we got both very angry about,
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