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Friends and Foes: The Fate of Prosecutors and Proud Boys

Main Justice

MS NOW, Andrew Weissmann, Mary McCord

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4.76.8K Ratings

🗓️ 20 April 2026

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

An AUSA is summarily fired by the DOJ for doing her job. Plus: vacating Proud Boy convictions and Trump's Jan 6 speech is ruled political, not official.

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome back to Maine Justice.

0:05.3

It is Monday morning, April 20th.

0:08.3

I am Andrew Weissman here with my co-host, Mary McCord, and noticed I said Monday morning.

0:14.0

And part of that, Mary, is because we have a really special guest in our first block. What's on our agenda and what's happening

0:23.3

on our first block? Good morning, by the way. We're just jumping right in here. Good morning.

0:27.8

But this is one where we really want to jump in. Yes, we do. So we mentioned, I think, last week,

0:33.5

because it had dropped right before we started recording that we would be talking at some

0:38.5

future time about the government's lengthy lengthy report alleging that prosecutors in the civil

0:46.5

rights division and the U.S. Attorney's offices had been biased in their prosecutions of

0:50.9

Base Act claims, which is the freedom of access to clinic entrances

0:55.2

act, and that a number of prosecutors had last week been fired. And we will actually talk to one

1:01.4

of the fired assistant United States attorneys. It's somebody I've known for a number of years,

1:06.2

a prosecutor her whole entire career, just really the salt of the earth. And we'll get sort of that first

1:11.5

person story. And that's one where stay, do not miss it. It says everything that you need to know.

1:19.2

Okay, what's after that, what's next? Then we're going to talk about some other things that happened

1:23.3

last week, a motion by the Department of Justice in the Court of Appeals, the D.C. Circuit, to vacate the convictions of the proud boys and oathkeepers who had not been pardoned, the ones whose sentences were commuted but not pardoned. They want to vacate those convictions so that they can go back down to the district court and ask the district court to dismiss them, even though... And by the way, Mary, as you would say, that's thing one.

1:45.2

Thing one.

1:45.7

And you know what Thing two is in my view?

1:47.5

And I'm pretty sure you agree.

1:49.4

Thing two is they probably saw what happened with Michael Flynn getting over a million dollars.

1:54.7

There's my conjecture.

1:56.7

Is thing two is they then will ask for money after having been convicted beyond a reasonable

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