Hello and welcome to the psychology podcast with Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman where we give

you insights into the mind, brain, behavior, and creativity. Each episode will feature

a new guest who will stimulate your mind and give you a greater understanding of yourself, others, and the world we live in.

Hopefully we'll also provide a glimpse into human possibility.

Thanks for listening and enjoy the podcast. best. Right now I'm really excited to be speaking with today's guest, Federica Fabritius.

Federica is co-author with Hans Hagaman on the new book, The Leading Brain,

Powerful Science-based Strategies for Achieving Peak Performance.

Thanks for being on the show today. Thanks for having me. It's a pleasure.

Really enjoyed reading your book, The Leading Brain. It's really fascinating for me to see how you apply the latest insights in

neuroscience and neurochemistry to the business and leadership world that how

often do you see kind of a marriage of those things?

Not very often because you know I used to work in management consulting before and nobody there wanted to hear about

neuroscience at all. I think they're now catching up but when I worked there and I said something from my perspective as a neuropsychologist, they were just rolling their eyes. They were like, we don't care, you know, get back to work. And then when I was at the Max Planck Institute for brain research where I started out,

I always looked for applications and people were not so very much interested in applications either I found so you know it was a real I don't

know how to call this but for me it was an epiphany when I was finally able to combine

those two it was a dream come true.

Because when I wanted to work with leaders,

but I realized that lots of the insights

that people are giving to leaders,

so lots of the advice that is given is not science-based and I think there's a lack. You cannot just go out and tell people to do things differently if you don't have any

I'm doing a great job with it and I wanted to discuss some of these ideas from your book

starting with the you that motivates us.

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