Hello and welcome to Made by Mommas the podcast. I'm Zoe Hardman and I'm Georgia Dayton.

And this is your parenting safe space where no conversation is off limits. With five kids between

G and I, we have seen a lot. We really have. Each week we'll be joined by some famous faces and

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But for now, George, should we get into it?

It's probably safe to say that we spend 90% of our time worrying about our kids,

praying and wishing that they are absolutely okay, worrying if they're not,

thinking that they might not be. I mean, it's a bit of a mind filled back and forth in our mind.

So we really

wanted to get somebody on the podcast today who is a total, what's the way, expert in her field,

but has lived and slept and breathed the whole experience. She is a children's author. She is

founder of Sophie Says. She is a mental health advocate. It is Esther Marshall.

Yay. Thank you so much for having me

it's so lovely for you to be here thank you i really appreciate you you you sent such a beautiful

email back when we were first chatting and you said that you've listened to the podcast for a really

long time and we actually received your books years ago years ago We were reading them to our kids for a really long time.

So it's lovely to have you sitting here.

Thank you.

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