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Ho, ho, ho. Merry Christmas. Look at my big sack full of no presents because I haven't ordered anything yet.

No presents. I'm actually sitting in my office at the moment as we record and I've literally got presents behind me.

But I'm not very good at hiding. Oh, wow. Well done.

They're all like stashed here but the problem with that is that if they see them then I have to rebuy presents. No you do not have to

do that. You just need to wrap them quickly or shove them in a cupboard. Yes what I need to do.

Yeah well it is a stressful I've got to be honest with you I don't how everybody else is feeling, but I feel like the year between September and November really goes quite slowly, you know, you're back into school, you're kind of trying to find your flow, and then suddenly Christmas is switched on and then I think, fuck, fuck dooddy, fuck doodle do, I haven't done anything. And then I go into total panic. Same. And also, if you're,

you know, on social media or like you read magazines or whatever, it's so many gift guides.

There's so much Black Friday messaging. It becomes so confusing knowing what to buy. Like,

everyone's trying to sell something to you. And you think,

oh, like, oh, God, I should be buying this. I should be buying that. And before you know it,

like you bought a load of rubbish that you don't need. No, it's true. But it's so true, isn't it?

It's so true. And I'm really like trying to not do that. Me too. Did you see Luna's list?

Firstly, her beautiful little heart.

She spent five hours making that list, which she did.

That was not the first edit.

That was the fourth edit that she did and designed.

But she's so specific on

what she wants. Firstly, I cannot believe a nine-year-old wants that much skincare. You know, it's all

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