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What Fresh Hell: Laughing in the Face of Motherhood | Parenting Tips From Funny Moms

Fresh Take: Trevor Hanson on Healing Our Attachment Styles

What Fresh Hell: Laughing in the Face of Motherhood | Parenting Tips From Funny Moms

What Fresh Hell: Laughing in the Face of Motherhood

Kids & Family, Comedy, Parenting

4.81K Ratings

🗓️ 12 September 2025

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Amy sits down with Trevor Hanson, coach and founder of The Art of Healing and the Secure Self Club, to unpack the power of attachment theory and how it shapes our relationships. Trevor explains the differences between secure, anxious, and avoidant attachment styles—and why understanding your patterns can transform the way you love, communicate, and connect. Trevor shares practical tools for breaking free from people-pleasing, over-apologizing, and shutting down, including his "TEMPO" framework for mapping your attachment cycle. You’ll learn how self-compassion and daily “attachment skills” can help you create the emotional safety you’ve been missing and build healthier, more connected relationships. If you’ve ever wondered why you get defensive, struggle with conflict, or repeat the same painful patterns in love, this conversation will give you both clarity and hope. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: What attachment theory is and how it shapes your relationships Why most relationship conflict comes from insecurity Practical strategies to move from anxious attachment to secure connection Here's where you can find Trevor: Follow Trevor on Instagram: @theartofhealingbytrevor artofhealingbytrevor.com Trevor's free seminar From Anxious to Secure The Gottman Institute: The Anger Iceberg We love the sponsors that make this show possible! You can always find all the special deals and codes for all our current sponsors on our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.whatfreshhellpodcast.com/p/promo-codes/⁠⁠⁠⁠ mom friends, funny moms, parenting advice, parenting experts, parenting tips, mothers, families, parenting skills, parenting strategies, parenting styles, busy moms, self-help for moms, manage kid’s behavior, teenager, tween, child development, family activities, family fun, parent child relationship, decluttering, kid-friendly, invisible workload, default parent, productivity, attachment theory, anxious attachment, avoidant attachment, secure attachment, attachment styles in relationships, healing attachment wounds, relationship communication skills, people pleasing and boundaries, overcoming fear of abandonment, self-compassion in relationships, Secure Self Club, Trevor Hanson coach, Art of Healing by Trevor, emotional regulation in conflict, breaking negative relationship cycles Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey, everybody. Welcome to Fresh Take from What Fresh Hell Laughing in the Face of Motherhood. This is Amy.

0:07.3

Today, I'm talking to Trevor Hanson. He is a coach and founder of the Art of Healing. It's the Art of Healing by Trevor on Instagram.

0:16.2

Trevor teaches relationship and attachment skills through the Secure Self Club. Welcome, Trevor.

0:21.7

Hey, thank you for having me. The first question I had from you is just starting in your bio,

0:25.5

you say that you teach attachment skills. And from my understanding of attachment theory,

0:31.0

it's pretty primal. It's pretty learned in our earliest parts of our lives. And yet you're saying

0:37.1

it's also a skill,

0:38.0

something we can do maybe more effectively. So tell us about that. Yeah. So when I think about

0:41.9

the word attachment skills, really, it's not so much the idea of, oh, I'm learning a skill and

0:48.2

I'm therefore behaving differently. So the way our attachment style is formed, and if someone's

0:53.6

not familiar, attachment style

0:54.9

basically describes how you feel, A, about yourself, do I have confidence?

0:59.9

Do I have that self-worth?

1:01.1

Do I feel connected to myself to where generally, no matter what happens, like, I know I'm

1:05.5

okay and I'm safe?

1:07.1

So it's that and then it's also how we connect with other people.

1:10.4

If we feel anxiety, like love is scarce or love has to be earned, or maybe we kind of shut down in the face of emotions because it feels like too much for us, that might be an indication of a certain kind of attachment style. It's like how our internal programming around love responds to other people.

1:28.8

And particularly, I'm most helpful for those people who are in what we call the

1:34.4

anxious attachment-style camp.

1:36.8

And the anxious attachment, they're the person who has fears of abandonment, fears of betrayal.

1:41.7

They feel like they're not good enough. They rely on other people. They're the

1:46.3

big time people pleaser that does everything for everybody else. And if they're dating, they're

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