Fresh Take: Jen Hatmaker, AWAKE

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What Fresh Hell: Laughing in the Face of Motherhood

Kids & Family, Comedy, Parenting

4.8 • 1K Ratings

🗓️ 7 November 2025

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Amy and Margaret talk with bestselling author and "For the Love" podcaster Jen Hatmaker about her new memoir AWAKE. Jen's book begins with the moment she knew her marriage was over, and goes on to tell the story of the midlife reckoning that followed—and how her life up until that point had left her, in some ways, particularly unprepared. In this interview, Jen shares: How women are taught to ignore their instincts and prioritize belonging Why midlife brings inevitable upheaval — and opportunity How to meet your past self with compassion, not shame Here's where you can find Jen: https://jenhatmaker.com @jenhatmaker on all FB, IG, YT, and LinkedIn Buy AWAKE: https://bookshop.org/a/12099/9781668083680 We love the sponsors that make this show possible! You can always find all the special deals and codes for all our current sponsors on our website: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.whatfreshhellpodcast.com/p/promo-codes/ Get 50% Off Monarch Money, the all-in-one financial tool at ⁠www.monarchmoney.com/FRESH Ready to raise money-smart kids? Start now with your first month FREE at acornsearly.com/FRESH! Head to GigSalad.com and book some awesome talent for your next party, and let them know that What Fresh Hell sent you.jen hatmaker interview, jen hatmaker awake book, jen hatmaker memoir, jen hatmaker divorce, women and midlife transformation, midlife reinvention podcast, faith deconstruction for women, evangelical deconstruction, trusting your intuition, women rebuilding after divorce, healing after betrayal, motherhood and identity, women’s resilience stories, Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:27.7	slash setup hello everyone and welcome to what fresh hell laughing in the face of motherhood
0:36.5	this is margaret and this is amy today we are talking to jenn hatmaker she is to What Fresh Hell Laughing in the Face of Motherhood. This is Margaret.
0:38.4	And this is Amy.
0:41.0	Today we are talking to Jen Hatmaker.
0:48.5	She is a bestselling author, award-winning podcaster, speaker, and fierce advocate for women living in freedom and agency. With 14 books, her podcast for the love, the Jen Hatmaker Book Club and more.
0:54.8	Jen reaches millions with her signature mix of humor, vulnerability, and wisdom.
1:00.3	Today we'll be talking about her latest instant New York Times bestseller, Awake,
1:05.8	a coming of middle age story about losing what you thought to find you and discovering who you really are. Welcome, Jen.
1:12.8	Thanks for having me, girls. Glad to see you. So, Jen, awake opens with one of the most shattering
1:19.7	moments imaginable. I'm hoping you'll tell us a little bit about that moment. Yeah. I mean,
1:24.8	we just went ahead and went for the jugular right there in sentence number one,
1:28.2	the opening scene. And by the way, the whole book, as you know, is written in scenes. It's not written.
1:33.7	It's not chapters. It's not like long commentary on the issues. It's just little moments and
1:39.8	memories all strung together to build a story that I'm trusting the reader to find. So the first thing was
1:45.2	July 11th, 2020. It's 2.30 a.m. in the morning. And I'm in bed. I'm asleep. And I wake up and I'm hearing
1:53.1	my husband at the time voice texting his girlfriend in our bed. And it was clear that those words
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