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The Lincoln Project

Fresh Blood vs. Fossilized Fools with James Talarico

The Lincoln Project

The Lincoln Project

News, Government, Politics, News Commentary

4.69.1K Ratings

🗓️ 19 January 2026

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Texas is breaking at the seams—divided, bitter, and locked in a political cage match that’s left ordinary Texans stuck in the middle. For decades, the state has been painted bright red, but now the cracks are showing, and a fresh wave of underdog organizers and voters is daring to repaint the map purple. From the San Antonio Spurs to street culture, from BBQ pits to the Capitol floor, Texas' fresh politics is colliding with an old guard terrified of losing power—on fights over voting rights, gerrymandering, abortion bans, gun violence, border and immigration, book bans, school vouchers, property taxes, and the ERCOT power grid. In this episode, James Talarico joins Rick Wilson for a hard look at a changing Purple Texas—how Gen Z, Latino voters, suburban women, and independents are shifting the map; why MAGA extremism and corrupt politicians (like Ken Paxton) keep stoking culture wars; and how fresh leadership can take power back for the people and revive democracy in the Lone Star State.





You can find James Talarico @jamestalarico on social media, and keep up with his campaign at jamestalarico.com.

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0:00.0

Oftentimes people in our party like to complain that, you know, voters have moved away from us.

0:05.9

That's not the voters' fault. That is our fault as a party. If we are not speaking to their needs,

0:10.9

if we are not providing a vision that they can see themselves in and can buy into, then that's on us.

0:16.5

Your task will not be an easy one. Your enemy is well trained, well equipped, and battlehardt.

0:22.6

There is not a liberal America and a conservative America.

0:26.3

There is the United States of America.

0:31.2

Good night and good luck.

0:33.4

Hey, folks, it's Rick Wilson.

0:34.7

Welcome back once again to the Lincoln Project podcast.

0:36.8

I am super excited to be joined today, but James Tolerico, who is a newly announced candidate for the United States Senate in the great state of Texas. He is a communicator and a legislator and a leader of a form that I think a lot of people didn't believe the Democrats still had in them.

0:58.2

He goes where places Democrats fear to tread, and that is talking to working folks,

1:01.9

talking to folks, people of fate, talking to folks across the political spectrum. The biggest divide in our country is not left versus right. It's top versus bottom.

1:10.2

Billionaires want us looking left and right at each other

1:14.6

so that we're not looking up at them.

1:17.6

The people at the top work so hard to keep us angry and divided

1:23.6

because our unity is a threat to their wealth and their power.

1:29.1

So their social media algorithms and their cable news networks tear us apart.

1:34.9

They divide us by party, by race, by gender, by religion,

1:40.0

so that we don't notice that they're defunding our schools,

1:43.3

gutting our health care and cutting taxes for themselves and their rich friends.

1:48.6

It is the oldest strategy in the world.

1:52.6

Divide and conquer.

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