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Freedom to Learn: Keri Ingraham on Scaling Back Federal Dominance, Union Control, & Bloated Bureaucracy in K-12 Education

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4.4651 Ratings

🗓️ 23 April 2026

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

What does it actually look like to unwind federal control of education? Keri D. Ingraham, Director of the Discovery Institute’s American Center for Transforming Education, joins the podcast to discuss the first year of efforts to scale back the U.S. Department of Education and return authority to states and families. Drawing on her experience as […]

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Freedom to Learn podcast.

0:04.0

I'm your host, Ginny Gentles.

0:05.0

This season, we're diving into what it means to return education to states, communities, and families.

0:11.0

And we're exploring what becomes possible when education is freed from union dominance and federal control.

0:24.8

Just over a year ago, President Trump signed an executive order stating that the federal education bureaucracy is not working and instructing Education Secretary Linda McMahon to take

0:30.0

all necessary steps to facilitate the closure of the Department of Education and return

0:34.7

education authority to the states while continuing to ensure the effective

0:38.4

and uninterrupted delivery of services, programs, and benefits on which Americans rely.

0:44.0

Carrie Ingram joins me today to discuss the actions taken since then to scale back the federal

0:48.6

role in education. We also talk about the Education Freedom Tax Credit, Federal Scholarship Tax Credit,

0:54.1

as we often refer to it on this podcast.

0:56.6

29 states have opted in.

0:59.0

We talk about why all 50 states should participate.

1:02.6

Carrie Ingram is a senior fellow at Discovery Institute and director of the Institute's American Center for Transforming Education.

1:09.5

She's also a senior fellow at

1:10.9

Independent Women. Dr. Ingram is a former educator with extensive experience as a teacher,

1:16.1

coach, and administrator.

1:21.4

Carrie Ingram, welcome to Freedom to Learn. Thanks. Delighted to be with you.

1:26.7

This season on Freedom to Learn, we're talking about what

1:29.2

it means to free education from federal dominance and union control. It's been a little over a year

1:34.8

since President Trump signed an executive order and instructed Secretary of Education, Linda McMahon,

1:40.0

to take all necessary steps to facilitate the closure of the Department of Education. You and I were at

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