Here's Heather Nelson.

So as we are set free from the power of shame, the grace of Jesus gives us the strength

to parent in a different way, to ultimately derive our parenting from God the Father.

He is the perfect parent, the only perfect parent.

This is the Revive Our Hearts podcast with Nancy DeMoss Walgamu, author of Choosing Gratitude for Wednesday, July 19, 2017.

For the last couple of days, Aaron Davis and Heather Nelson have talked about how common

it is for women to be weighted down by a sense of shame.

And they've been showing us how to find freedom from shame in Christ.

Heather is the author of Unashamed, Healing Our Brokenness and Finding Freedom from shame. And Aaron is the lead writer for

the Lies Young Women Believe blog, sponsored by Revive Our Hearts. Aaron interviewed Heather at a

gospel coalition women's conference, so you'll hear some conference noises in the background.

Now, today, these women will talk about how to be free from shame in some of your most

important relationships. Let's listen. We dedicate a couple of chapters in the book to shame

specifically in marriage and specifically in parenting. And I think as image bearers of God,

we women are especially drawn to relationships. All social science, even secular social

science, tells us that women draw their sense of worth often from our relationships. And what's

more important to a woman than those two relationships most often? So maybe it's because the stakes are

so high that we experience so much shame there. But let's talk specifically about marriage.

It's this beautiful relationship, it's a covenant, but can also be a source of shame, even in good

marriages. So can you give me some examples of how marriage can be a source of shame for a woman?

Marriage can be a source of shame if you're not. I mean, let's just,

let's just put that out there. That your marital status, whether it's single, divorced, widowed,

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